As a curiosity. about how much swimming is needed to reach the sand sprites?


- Moto, Fyre-Cat

MINE! MINE! MINE! Get away from my swag! - Soim

that hopeful...I was out there with 20 and couldnt get anywhere


- Moto, Fyre-Cat

MINE! MINE! MINE! Get away from my swag! - Soim

hmm...seems I have a heavy burden...Have to unload something...


- Moto, Fyre-Cat

MINE! MINE! MINE! Get away from my swag! - Soim

May I suggest the bone wolves in Leth or the morah vines in Ker'Leor? The blood wolves don't teach me very well at all. Nor did the caimans.

~Aramil Galanodel

This is true. But bone wolves will still lock my TM using the method I mentioned while blood wolves don't. The best thing, of course, would be to go out to Ratha and use the sand sprites if you can stand in there without getting shredded.

~Aramil Galanodel

So you don't have to target GZ to have it teach TM? Interesting..


Celestica moves a stone mortar labeled "NotCelestiaa" to his right hand.

You tap a hollow ram's horn labeled "NotCelestica" that you are wearing.

actually in dryads and nyads right now just prepping and casting GZ, done about 5-6 casts and its already pondering which is alot faster then targeting and such. Seems you don't ahve to target to get TM, seems rather odd.


Celestica moves a stone mortar labeled "NotCelestiaa" to his right hand.

You tap a hollow ram's horn labeled "NotCelestica" that you are wearing.

Primary Magic: 47 99% very muddled Harness Ability: 48 81% bewildering

Power Perceive: 59 19% thoughtful Magical Devices: 58 39% learning

Targeted Magic: 46 06% pondering

Strength : 14 Reflex : 18

Agility : 14 Charisma : 12

Discipline : 11 Wisdom : 14

Intelligence : 11 Stamina : 12

Favors: 3

Concentration: 23 Max: 23

TDPs: 40

Item one- There is a war on so get more favors.

Item two- You are fairly close to capping in nyads and dryads- so if you have the defenses for it, find more challenging prey. I suggest beisswurms, goblin shamans of Haven (the rams are what will move you here), or if you're an estate holdeer over the stile behind Baearolt's Tavern. You could get a bit more out of the water sprites and lipopods too, but it would be slow going.

Good luck!


Mheereia


Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy

A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy

1) I love your reflexes
2) More stamina might help with swinging weapons...who cares about mentals for now?

But you asked about TM...

>On the other hand, unless you plan on retreating a lot, you'll want to work on your defenses where you are a bit more before you move on

Word. Your TM is currently 75% greater than your evasion. Yeah, evasion goes slow...Your parry looks a lot better. I'd sit in cougars or goblins and work that evasion for a bit (or maybe nyads/dryads...i don't know this area very well).

If just sitting there working evasion is boring, consider working shiled too. Or maybe stealth. Both come in handy in PvP and wars/invasions. Can always pick up another weapon too....but it looks like you're allready on top of this one.

Getting some extra defense ranks will help with that armor hinderance too. With currently less than 30 in both chains, and the armor mixing penalty, I'm guessing you've got a nice amount of hinderance now. Retreating might even still be tough. Those early ranks of armor will help alot with a variety of stuff (retreating, evading, swimming, hiding, stalking, stealing).

As for the creature ladder with my TF barb I went rats -> gobs -> cougars(until upper 30s) -> eels(until low 50s or upper 40s) -> reavers/hounds -> beisswurms.

Cougars might not swarm enough for your TM. If you can get eels swarming (i had trouble in TF) and you can survive (could be tough), it's possible that you can pick up weapons/TM exp while still getting those defense ranks you so direly need. Once defenses are caught up, I'd give reavers/hounds a try. They can swarm decently. Reavers shields can be a pain for TM/ranged users, but not too big a deal. Down the shaft in reavers it's dark so...1)makes training stealth easier 2)can make scripting harder cause no "asses". Beisswurms seem great after that as they swarm alot and use no shield.

But yeah, get those defenses (evasion) up.

Tessaa

hmm thanks for the advice, I currently keep Multi, HE, ME LC, Evasion, and PAry constantly locked while hunting in Dryads Nyads simply by dancing I don't even have to swing my weapons I can lock both by parrying. Right now I'm able to dance with 5 of them without getting touched with my defenses aswell, I'm assuming it's because of my Multi and Reflex. Evasion I ahve been trying to get up and even though it is ALWAY locked while I work TM and TM is constantly pondering during this time TM moves faster because its a primary skill set, so unless I just sit there and not take advantage of the TM trainnig, which is prety pointless, i'm not having any trouble at all locking evasion while I keep TM pondering. My probalem is that I can go to things higher up and still be able to dance Armor also being tert it is the same state as evaqsion( always locked while TM is pondering) so it's not like i'm not working those skills. TM simply moves faster at pondering then they do at Mind Lock which is true because even my barb with 150 Mech moves slower at Locked then my 2HE will with way more then double the ranks at like concentrating. So my question is this, and which I was planning on doing, Dryads and Nyads aren't even close to capping my defenses or weapons at all, Should I just keep with the sloew TM and just work defenses till they cap there? I can keep them all locked very easily, secondly I dropped HC as a secondary because I realized Armors are tert for WM's and they are going to go extreamly slow and hence it might be alot easier to just stick to all LC since it's lighter and work on that. How does that work for WMs? My barb has almost 300 leather and 150 in LP HP HC LC but it's easy for her to wear a set of LP HP HC and LC while still hunting at the top of her level without getting the crap kicked out of her. My WM however seems to benefit from teh single armor because it is a tert, thoughts?
Also I wasn't planning on getting my strength or Stamina up to much more simply because I can easily lock both weaopns and sometiems LE by just parrying and I don't have bad RT's on ME anyways 4/4/4 and 6/6/6 on HE which is dealable, its not lowest but I don't need to cut through things with the way GZ takes out the dryads and Nyads, i'll increase it later when I need it. I was thinking mainly focus on Discipline reflex and agility. Now last question I promise, does agility effect the accuracy of TM spells? and is it worth while to get alot of it for that purpose alone? I plan on getting a decent amount ofr weapon accuracy/RT but I was wondering if it helped here aswell.

thanks.


Celestica moves a stone mortar labeled "NotCelestiaa" to his right hand.

You tap a hollow ram's horn labeled "NotCelestica" that you are wearing.

Thanks for helping a magic Impaired Barbarian <grin>


Celestica moves a stone mortar labeled "NotCelestiaa" to his right hand.

You tap a hollow ram's horn labeled "NotCelestica" that you are wearing.

I've not been playing a WM for years or anything, but I can tell you what worked for me. Like I've said, the prep, cast, prep, cast etc. technique worked. But only on certain creatures would it actually lock my TM. I think I struggled for a while (before I learned that this worked). Then I started doing it on jackals. Then I found the meadow rams, then bone wolves, and now sand sprites. The undead kobolds in Shard teach well, and so do the vines in Ker'Leor, but they're both a smidgeon out of my league, melee-wise. It'll take a little travelling from one of the creatures to another, but it's worth it if that's what it takes to progress.

~Aramil Galanodel of M'Riss

Blood Wolves and Sprites will teach you to roughly the same skill level; Sprites swarm a great deal more and are individually less dangerous. They also tend to drop decent treasure for their level and a great many boxes. My locksmith character has popped in excess of 100 boxes at a time for people in Ratha. My warrior mage hasn't bothered with the trip since blood wolves teach better.

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"It's amazing how much of a deterrent a big 9mm can be to a group of mimes, even evil ones."
-- Sir Anthony Marks, "One Enchanted Evening"

Generally, it's not considered possible to carry 700 boxes.

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"It's amazing how much of a deterrent a big 9mm can be to a group of mimes, even evil ones."
-- Sir Anthony Marks, "One Enchanted Evening"

>chuckle my barb can haul out of there 700+ boxes a day when working staffsling and Short staff. Not to mention a couple plat in just the coins they drop. but thats like 5 hours of straight no resting slaughter fest.

Hmm...and what ranks did you start in there?

Steel.

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Now with combat move charts!
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ermm she's like 60+ Circle she jes playing with baby weapons, min is like 50-60 in your weapon to start knocken'em around if thats what ya mean?


Celestica moves a stone mortar labeled "NotCelestiaa" to his right hand.

You tap a hollow ram's horn labeled "NotCelestica" that you are wearing.

Well I can pop them myself with my barb but liek 13 locks her up pretty well and its secondary skill set so doesn't pulse super fast and I can get the boxes faster then I can pop them effciently.....<shrug> I let the janitor keep'em grin


Celestica moves a stone mortar labeled "NotCelestiaa" to his right hand.

You tap a hollow ram's horn labeled "NotCelestica" that you are wearing.

Disarm and locks are the only reasons I can see anyone would go to sand sprites, if they weren't interested in money. Blood wolves don't swarm quite as much, but are natural critters and teach evasion and weapons much more easily. They both cap around the same area, too. From blood wolves you can go straight to mines; there's a bit of a jump between sprites and swain. Silver leucros don't really fill the gap.

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"It's amazing how much of a deterrent a big 9mm can be to a group of mimes, even evil ones."
-- Sir Anthony Marks, "One Enchanted Evening"

>My red Sash Swashbucklin Kitty Warmage Pirate har!

Pirates are passe.

Vikings are cool now.

Tessaa

I'm a 9th circle warmie in need of some advice. I have all the ranks I need to circle to 11 but TM; however, I can't seem to find a good way to train it. Enemies that are at my level, skillwise, don't seem to move it past pondering unless I stand in the area for a good hour or more (time I don't really have). Enemies above my skill level also don't seem to move it quickly, and frequently I'll be firing off low mana shards to my heart's content when a fourth enemy will enter the room and I go to near death pretty quickly, with only a panic button SD saving my behind.

My usual training method goes like this: stand in a room, prepping 2 mana fireshards with a 1 second target time over and over. Is there a better method? And with 39 multi, how do I deal with the fact that wood trolls, cougars, and grendels completely destroy me in a swarm?

Here are my exact stats:

Str: 11
Agil: 11
Reflex: 16
Stamina: 13

HE: 39
Parry: 36
Multi: 39
Evasion: 32

Thanks for any help,
Jameinleipen