>>ratha sewer rats(can't remember what they are right now)

Kra'hei hatchlings.

Te What To Hunt Chart, link in my signature, is a fairly useful bit of information.

~Kyn (Kynevon)

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Hmmm,

Not a whole lot of information to work on (such as where you hunt, what circle you are, what your combat skills are, etc), but ...

Here are some general suggestions.

1) Increase your power perception so that you can cast TM spells over and over for longer periods of time without running out of mana.

2) Hunt natural critters (i.e. no weapons or shields) since they tend to have more stamina than weapon using critters of the same level and they only rely on evasion.

3) Aethereal Pathways were invented to help the lower circle warrior mages during the tough time of training TM (yes, you are not alone in having problems training TM at early circles).

4) Is it a question of not hitting the critter? Not doing enough damage when you do hit? Consider raising discipline and/or agility a few points each.

5) If it is a problem where you had no trouble learning TM when you first moved to the hunting area, but are now finding it hard to get the skill up past muddled, then you have to ask yourself is it difficult to circle because of it? Meaning, are you needing ranks in TM to circle, or is it just weapons/lore/magic? You may just want to focus on defensive skills and weapons for a bit so that you can move on to the next level of critters without getting ripped apart.

6) Dying is a part of a warrior mage's life. Don't let that discourage you if you are hindering your TM learning because of it.

There are a few other considerations, but they become more specific for each person. But, with the little you gave us to work on, those 6 points above may have provided a solution.


Trebber

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GM XXXXXX "Well, we can't please everyone."

You say, "True, but that is no reason not to try."

Hi- I am a Warrior Mage from Prime and am having a hard time keeping my TM moving around 1400.

I am currently hunting Westies and was having success with Chain Lightning at max-prep.

Anyone have some pointers for me?

Thanks in advance

<<I am a Warrior Mage from Prime and am having a hard time keeping my TM moving around 1400.

I hate you. :-P

Don't hate...I'm sorry I am the man, but I can't help it.
Being a Warmie with 1K evasion tends to put you at or near the top of the food chain...

But in all seriousness, my intense roleplaying has distracted me from keeping up to date on what TM spells teach best.

It used to be machine-gunning GZ, then huge Fire Shards, then CL... Has anything else changed in the TM learning department?

Any advice is most appreciated. Now, I must go back to playing ATK.

The big D

ps How's this for a TERT skill:
Circle: 150
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning
Skinning: 998 22.75% bewildering
Time Development Points: 2879 Favors: 5 Deaths: 645
Overall state of mind: clear

Thats funny.. since this is about a prime WM, not a TF one...

>exp target
Target Magic: 129.00% concentrating
>ponder 1400
Gilart ponders 1400
>fire gil
Gilart puts crossbow to head and pulls trigger..


Player of Gilart and Olatio

From my experience, you'll need to have a LOT of the runestones to use them as effective tools for training TM because you have to be able to cast the spells quite frequently.

-Durnil

<<If there are GZ runestones I'd recommend these instead. I know there used to be.


<<Axillus - Halfling Warrior Mage

Cool, thanks man. I'll buy a couple and see. If I remember, I'll let you know how it goes.

Read in the other spot you posted, someone said the name of the rune, something like zagnatha or something like that. Used to be available on Ratha.


Axillus - Halfling Warrior Mage
>You charge your steel-toed footwrap at a musk hog.

>Only downside is that the charm costs about 10 times more than a FS runestone.

I'm not sure, as I don't have access to a bullwhip charm, but generally charms and jewelry have 15 charges each as opposed to the 6 or so on a runestone.

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Fuquois

I used the runes for a long while for my training. 4 charges per rune, bout 2 gold per rune. Ues hb (though granted now it doesn't give quite the penalty to your target that it used to). I'd also throw in some naphtha that I'd stolen for kicks though the downside is that it burns all the webs away.

Be careful putting in too much mana into the fireshard. FS is one of the most annoying spells to use to train as a non elemental user because elemental and life mana are not friends. With a min prep I never blow my arms off. With lots of harnessed mana I'd say it happens every other hunting trip. This leads you to want to cast lots of low prep snaps, however that in turn drives your exp based off damage way down, and increases the number of casts you need to lock, therefore the amount of money you'll spend.

Though a combo of runes and scrolls I've managed to train my TM as a ranger up to 140. Not too shabby, but its definitely not quick and easy.
Feel free to IM if you got anymore questions about us rangerly TM slinging types.

Jalika
AIM - SpiffDR

>You've gained a new rank in your ability to steal.

28 ranks is near the cap of goblins, if I remember correctly. It sounds like it's time to move on to poths, badgers, and trollkin.

-Durnil

I personally skipped from unarmed gobs up to cougars, at around 35 ranks.

Bit risky, totally doable, great TM learning.

I went from gobs at 35 to trollkins to woodies and grendel all about the snap casting and good armor skill

For once, I agree with RX. If you really try hard, you can get TM to 50 in gobs, but why would you do that?

-Durnil

>>For once, I agree with RX. If you really try hard, you can get TM to 50 in gobs, but why would you do that?

So you don't have to try to train defenses on a tougher critter?


Vinjince

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>>For once, I agree with RX. If you really try hard, you can get TM to 50 in gobs, but why would you do that?

So you don't have to try to train defenses on a tougher critter?

Vinjince

"There are five possible operations for any army. If you can fight, fight; if you cannot fight, defend; if you cannot defend, flee; if you cannot flee, surrender; if you cannot surrender, die."

- Sima Yi

That's why you take TM as far as you can, then let your defenses/weapons catch up then move on


Jaedren says, "Alas, no Khri Ronco (Set it and forget it!). Woe."

I agree that you are near the top of what the goblins can teach you in TM. I trained TM to about 45 in pots and badgers, and if you should run out of mana the critters shouldn't chew on you too badly.


Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy

A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy

Yep, appraisal was off. I have no clue if this is right about the bolds. Can't find the help info.

>Fighting with a scimitar and holding a target shield, [B]you think[/B] it is likely that the musk hog is a mythical being of immense power and ability.




Axillus - Halfling Warrior Mage
>You charge your steel-toed footwrap at a musk hog.