We are moving away from a system where you either dance, or berserk - but never both. In the new system there is some overlap, and you can choose what to use depending on how you want to play. Each of the types of abilities offers some offense, some defense, some utility and some magic resistance.

I will reveal a bit about how learning abilities will work. Each ability will require X number of abilities from that Path to be known, before it can be learned. Each ability will also consume Y slots.

So, many of the lower level abilities will only require 0-2 abilities to be known from a Path. Roar Anger the Earth, for example, might be selectable without any previously known abilities. Dragon Form might require 2. Berserk Volcano, might need 7.

Each Barbarian will have an opportunity to select a "Path" if they so choose. Choosing a path will give additional slots, make it appear as though you know more abilities from that path than you do and will have some RP tie-ins along the way.

Anyways, the initial ability list was just that - a start. It has already changed, and will continue to evolve with your much-appreciated input over the next few months.

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Sweet, any chance on posting some of the stuff that has changed already? I both RP and tactic wise like the Predator path so I was looking forward to that.


Heitak

Yes, that would be ideal for players to test with.

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urm...what is this test server? Will this be made available to everyone? Or is it already?

Doesn't seem very fair, but whatever.







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>>Doesn't seem very fair, but whatever.

Not fair that the test instance that gives you no tangible benefit isn't open to you?
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The test instance is for large-scale changes that occupy a middle ground of "We need actual player testing." and "This is way too risky to dump into Plat." Nothing that happens to your PC's copy in test affects the real version of him, we don't guarantee the game even works right in the instance, and for the purposes of most testing we want an arbitrarily small population to keep things under control.

It's really nothing to feel envious over, especially since we've done testing and previews across different instances and even different account types for most of DR's existence.

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>>The benefit is you get to know the system before most everyone else. So yes, not fair, but as I said. whatever.

This is a very intangible benefit of arguable consequence. I would argue it has no real value, especially since for systems rewrites this wide they always release a general preview so everyone can try out their new stuff before buying it, so to speak.
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>>The benefit is you get to know the system before most everyone else. So yes, not fair, but as I said. whatever.

By this logic, Premium Previews are also an unfair advantage (they're not).

You could always become a community leader, buy a Plat account, or do things like go to the Con to get access to beta testing.

>>Well you are certainly welcome to your opinion. I don't value it, but thats neither here nor there.

Agree to disagree, then. I am also of the opinion that you are a nerd.

That's what you get for disagreeing with me on an INTERNET BILLBOARD. Now stand down or I'll have to give you another verbal thrashing!
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And the conversation regarding the fairness of the test server is done.

It doesn't belong here.

Thanks.

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Initially these abilities will remain as they are - however I am considering making them purchaseable with slots as part of thematic RP/maneuver sets. Just too much work to squeeze in at the moment. The thought behind making them purchaseable is you can earn them sooner if you want to, you can choose not to ever learn them, and spend the points elsewhere, and it makes the thematic sets possible.

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- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes

Hello, been gone awhile.

Caaramon >Second, there will be a complete TDP refund at about the same time as this is released.

What's this about and what's the talk about changing the way TDP's are gained?

Also, sounds like dances and meditations will be like Thief Khri

Welcome back, and man are those loaded questions.

Sorry I haven't replied, I was feeling lazy and hoping someone else would.

>What's this about and what's the talk about changing the way TDP's are gained?

Basically, you'd have a top tier of skills drawn from each skillset that you gain TDPs at a rate faster than now, and everything else gains at a rate slower than now.

It's top 3 primary skills, top 3 from each secondary, and top 3 tertiary.

>Also, sounds like dances and meditations will be like Thief Khri

More or less, it seems like a similar system.

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