Please note that the following changes will be rolled out initially in Platinum for Beta Testing purposes, and will be rolled into all instances once Beta has concluded.

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Archery has received an update to improve reception for newer players and remove some of the tedium from hunting.

* Ammo bundles will no longer run out and instead will have charges for ammo with flares or other special properties.
* New tips are available that let you change the damage type of your ammo and the effectiveness against various armors.
* You can now READY AMMO a bundle and FIRE your bow or crossbow instead of having to have ammo in your hand.
* All ammo will shatter on shot or on search of the target so GATHER is no longer necessary.
* Crossbow roundtime has been normalized to 4 seconds for light crossbows and 5 seconds for heavy crossbows regardless of your AIM or HIDE status.
* Hand crossbows have been added to the game. These crossbows can be used one handed and work with two weapon combat or a shield.
* FLETCH is a new verb to customize your ammo bundles. Check out the FLETCH verb in-game for more information.
* MSTRIKE is now available for archery.
* Dislodge is a new maneuver that lets you rip your lodged ammo out of the target causing increased damage.
* True Hand has been changed to True Strike and now works with archery.

A big thanks to Mestys and Ixix who helped with coding and QC, as well as the entire team for all the work that went into this update. I'd also like to thank the Discord community who helped with testing.

For more detailed information, check out the design document at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z6rt_HxSgSrmAoOwhVKmlgjG5vvSkHRn8c6CConnS7U.

> What about item updates? (specifically, in my case, the compartmentalized quiver)

Those have been updated as well.

Naijin...

DISCLAIMER: I stayed away from the Google doc because I didn't want to mess with it during all the changes. I only care about the final results. I haven't seriously played an archer in a long time so I can't weigh in really, and so this is the first time I'm looking at it.

So AFTER looking at it, I want to clarify my question and ask some further ones..

..and this is all in regards to the COMPARTMENTALIZED QUIVER..

1) Is it LIVE on Plat in the currently listed state or is that all still in limbo for the time being? (this is to clarify that maybe you're thinking I was just asking about whether items have been updated, and not item updates being live)

2) Do you need more testers of it?

3) I see there's a new "sideways unlock." Can existing owners get an opportunity to assist, pay 5k bloodscrip, and get that certificate?

4) With all these changes, can existing owners get an opportunity to assist, and get bloodscrip refunds (specifically the auto advance certificate but anything that someone may not have gotten with the changes)? Perhaps even destroying the quiver for a full refund? (IF you feel there is need to discuss this with other GMs, please check with Lydil and ask him about the referral he did with Arianiss where I asked about a refund for other reasons (he said no; just tossing this out so you're aware of existing precedence he set))

I'm not Naijin, but ... as the quivers are my item, I'll answer.

>>>>>1) Is it LIVE on Plat in the currently listed state or is that all still in limbo for the time being? (this is to clarify that maybe you're thinking I was just asking about whether items have been updated, and not item updates being live)

This should be using the updated/newer version in Platinum as of now.

>>>>>2) Do you need more testers of it?

More testing is always nice, really, to be sure nothing has been missed with them. If you want a version in the Test server, I can arrange to provide one. But it sounds like you already have one in Prime or Platinum.

>>>>3) I see there's a new "sideways unlock." Can existing owners get an opportunity to assist, pay 5k bloodscrip, and get that certificate?

This sideways unlock is equivalent to the "auto-advance" unlock. Anyone who had "auto-advance" unlocked will now already have this "new" unlock instead in the new version. As well, people will probably have to wait until the next DR to buy new versions of the certificates.

>>>>>4) With all these changes, can existing owners get an opportunity to assist, and get bloodscrip refunds (specifically the auto advance certificate but anything that someone may not have gotten with the changes)? Perhaps even destroying the quiver for a full refund? (IF you feel there is need to discuss this with other GMs, please check with Lydil and ask him about the referral he did with Arianiss where I asked about a refund for other reasons (he said no; just tossing this out so you're aware of existing precedence he set))

That I can't be 100% sure on, but it is something can be discussed. To be honest, the quivers do have a lot more utility now than they did before (including a new mechanical feature in the fully unlocked versions), so I'm hoping no one will feel the need to get a complete refund on these. The archery updates completely nullified their prior abilities, but they've got quite cool new abilities now. (I will be posting all the details on this eventually in the Duskruin folder at some point.)

I did a video walkthrough of the new fletching system.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/620231604

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A quick flick of Wyrom's wrist sends a dagger into flight!
The thorny barrier surrounding you blocks Wyrom's attack!
One of the vines surrounding you lashes out at Wyrom, driving a thorn into his skin! Wyrom flinches slightly.

>>>>>> Quick question in the doc it says t2 compartment quivers will have 4 compartments max, my t2 already had 5 compartments will mine now be downgraded?

Hi there,

This seems to just be a copy/paste fail in the document. Your fully unlocked quiver should still be able to have a max of 6 compartments.

im really disappointed that bows are still not able to be paladin bonded to.

So.... is the artisan skill Fletching now defunct?


Starchitin, the OG

A severed gnomish hand crawls in on its fingertips and makes a rude gesture before quickly decaying and rotting into dust. A gust of wind quickly scatters the dust.

Ok, fletching and enchanting changes to arrows are really poorly explained in that doc.

If I fletch arrows out of magical woods like faewood they're no longer enchanted at all? What the heck is the point of fletching with these woods now? Is their pricing in the fletching shop going to be updated to reflect they're now just decorative (assuming that's the case)? What the heck does all this "UUUUUU" and "PPPPSS" mean on the ammo tip spreadsheet? Are these tips changing which crit tables the arrows are drawing from or just their DF/AvD?

Starchitin, the OG

A severed gnomish hand crawls in on its fingertips and makes a rude gesture before quickly decaying and rotting into dust. A gust of wind quickly scatters the dust.

Why are we being forced to monitor Discord to catch any clarifications or get questions answered? Just cause I'm in quarantine doesn't mean I don't have better things to do then stare at a glorified chat room all day....

Starchitin, the OG

A severed gnomish hand crawls in on its fingertips and makes a rude gesture before quickly decaying and rotting into dust. A gust of wind quickly scatters the dust.

<What the heck does all this "UUUUUU" and "PPPPSS" mean on the ammo tip spreadsheet? Are these tips changing which crit tables the arrows are drawing from or just their DF/AvD?>

<All the questions you asked were answered already.>

No, they were not.... I did find the answers eventually though, so sorry for wasting your time.


Starchitin, the OG

A severed gnomish hand crawls in on its fingertips and makes a rude gesture before quickly decaying and rotting into dust. A gust of wind quickly scatters the dust.

> <What the heck does all this "UUUUUU" and "PPPPSS" mean on the ammo tip spreadsheet? Are these tips changing which crit tables the arrows are drawing from or just their DF/AvD?>

Apologies that I missed that one. For others that are curious, that's unbalance and puncture/slash. The wiki page has been updated to include the tip information.

https://gswiki.play.net/Ranged_Weapons

Hi Naijin,

Has this been implemented?

✔️Mechanical Bow/Crossbow
COCK with ammo loaded will continue to bypass encumbrance.
Bolts that are loaded can be used as an unfocused MSTRIKE once every 30 minutes. This requires no MoC training.

When I do it:

>mstrike
You concentrate intently, focusing all your energies.
You are not skilled enough to perform this maneuver.
>mstrike troll
You concentrate intently, focusing all your energies.
You are not skilled enough to perform this maneuver.

Thanks.

Player of Brulgamin

> Has this been implemented?

Yes, use the SPIN verb. ANALYZE should give you more information too.

How do I get the compartmentalized quivers to show the flares? They're plainly visible when looking at the arrow.



The quiver appears to be made of golvern. It looks like it would be best worn attached to a belt. It looks to have 6 compartments inside with the following configuration:
1. a bundle of faewood arrows (a faewood arrow)
- Attunement: None
- Bane Charges: 0
2. a bundle of wooden arrows (a wooden arrow)
- Special Properties: Unknown Flares
- Attunement: None
- Bane Charges: 0
3. a bundle of wooden arrows (a wooden arrow) [Current]
- Special Properties: Master Fletched, Unknown Flares
- Attunement: None
- Bane Charges: 0
4. a bundle of wooden arrows (a wooden arrow)
- Special Properties: Master Fletched, Blessed
- Attunement: None
- Bane Charges: 0
5. a bundle of vultite-tipped arrows (a vultite-tipped arrow)
- Special Properties: Blessed
- Attunement: a skeleton [Focus: Undead]
- Bane Charges: 7
6. a bundle of wooden arrows (a wooden arrow)
- Special Properties: Unknown Flares
- Attunement: None
- Bane Charges: 0
Type TURN quiver TO # to turn to a specific compartment.


>look at arr in my quiv
You quickly glance through a bundle of wooden arrows and see they are are surrounded by a scintillating red light. You also count 100 that are of master quality.

Individual projectiles from this bundle will have a long of "a wooden arrow"

Each individual projectile will be "a wooden arrow".


- Andreas

Yes, they're e-bladed.

- Andreas

Compartment #3 is set to be the default. I am running lich, for what that's worth. Was fine before I set it as default.

>inspect quiv
The quiver appears to be made of golvern. It looks like it would be best worn attached to a belt. It looks to have 6 compartments inside with the following configuration:
1. a bundle of faewood arrows (a faewood arrow)
- Attunement: None
- Bane Charges: 0
2. a bundle of wooden arrows (a wooden arrow)
- Special Properties: Unknown Flares
- Attunement: None
- Bane Charges: 0
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Position: 90
Last 80 unconsumed characters:
- Special Properties: Master Fletched, Unknown Flares
- Attunement: a mezic [Focus: Magical]
- Bane Charges: 0
4. a bundle of wooden arrows (a wooden arrow)
- Special Properties: Master Fletched, Blessed
- Attunement: None
- Bane Charges: 0
5. a bundle of wooden arrows (a wooden arrow)
- Special Properties: Master Fletched, Blessed
- Attunement: None
- Bane Charges: 0
6. a bundle of wooden arrows (a wooden arrow)
- Special Properties: Master Fletched, Unknown Flares
- Attunement: None
- Bane Charges: 0
Type TURN quiver TO # to turn to a specific compartment.

- Andreas

The firework bolts appear to be broken when used with the new system. Also some wonky messaging as I am reloading a bolt that was already loaded before firing.

I went ahead and bugged the bolt in game in case you wanted to take a look at it.

>load crossb
You load a white and green light bolt into your dual crossbow.


>fire crossb
You load your dual crossbow with a white and green light bolt.
The bolt streaks off into the distance!
Roundtime: 2 sec.


>analyze my bolt
You analyze your green light bolt and sense that the item is largely free from merchant alteration restrictions.

The creator has also provided the following information:
This is a trick bolt, set to fire a firework.

You might be able to have a talented merchant lighten the green light bolt for you.


-- Robert

>> A halfling magistrate picks up a small rock and throws it at a half-elven bandit in a valiant effort to subdue him.

> The firework bolts appear to be broken when used with the new system. Also some wonky messaging as I am reloading a bolt that was already loaded before firing.

You'll need to BUGITEM those bolts. I saw the post for the black-tipped ones but they seem to be regular bolts and fired just fine in my testing.

Is the paint bug that it was permanent and went away or that painting a bundle uses up even the "large" paints? ('cause I had that happen)

- Andreas