Interesting..

So many ideas I am inspired to make, omgosh.

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NaOH+HI

The ability to appraise other players and attempt an assessment of their skills rather than just an inventory list.

A fun addition to this might also be to include a system that allows you to attempt to bluff your skills either up or down when others appraise you. Have some kind of skill/charisma check to determine whether you succeed with the bluff, then the level of success can determine how much higher or lower the victi... er appraiser falsely assesses your abilities.

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>befriend clear all
You are now friendless.

Ipecac, it's called mark. And it's random enough you don't need to bluff.

Monster Elec

You hear the distant echo of a savage Horde snarling in barbaric disapproval of your deeds.

This one maybe irrelevant depending on what the plans are regarding heavier armors and greater use for the armor skills, but...

Mage Plate - A lot of WM's in particular want to wear plate armor. Heck, the official image of one is wearing plate. Problem is, plate armor is really really rough to wear for armor terts. Mage Plate would be plate armor that doesn't hinder as much as regular plate and doesn't protect as much as real plate - a shade more hindering than chain, and a shade more protective. Ideally, it would be just another template, but it could also be a special prize for quests, auctions, or an element of Enchanting, depending on how rare it should be.

- Saragos

It might be nice to have something available that was even lower hindrance and protection but still called "plate." Also I would totally love to wear something called mageplate.


- Navesi

Isn't that basically what brigandine is meant to be?

And I keep hearing about there being "plans" for bone armor to be magical in nature but I haven't heard much more about what that might mean.

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Thayet
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>> And I'd also love some mageplate, but only if made with real mages.

Make it so.

<<While I'm all for mage-plate I pointed out the half plate because it's actually got lower hindrance than a lot of chain already. nightmare black leathers clock in at the same hindrance and just add in protection for legs and those are considered a "low hinderance" option for leathers.>>

The appraised hindrance ratings of the pieces themselves can be a bit misleading. There does, in general, appear to be a nice progression of hindrance versus protection/absorption as you move up in weight and across armor "type" boundaries, but then it gets thrown way the heck out of whack by the way hindrance works. If I remember correctly, there's literally a mechanic in place that causes the worst possible hindrance you can get in chain to be lower than the best possible hindrance you can get in brigandine, even if you have low skill in the former with a high-hindrance item and high skill in the latter with a low-hindrance item that covers the same body parts. Likewise for comparing across the other "armor type" boundaries. So your lower hindrance plate will still offer more hindrance than the higher hindrance chain. It's kind of absurd, really.

Personally I think the influence of an armor's "type" should be removed from hindrance calculations, and instead it should just be that your skill reduces the item's base hindrance by some percentage (with that percentage being related to one's armor skillset placement). That way your hugely protective, highly hindering chain won't automatically hinder less than the comparably protective plate just because. Barring that, I think it would be cool to have armors that use one skill (say, plate for the sake of all those aforementioned Warrior Mages) but behave like a different "type" for the sake of hindrance. Maybe that could be an enchantment or something.

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>> EZATMO like NPC, but for adding some item hiders to a non-scripted item. Not sure how to balance the costs for that. LTB or Simucoin? IDK. Item hiders are so hot right now.

Oh lordy yes.

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Thayet
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I think the justification for armor/weapon hiders being so rare and expensive is that having those items hidden does potentially provide a (minor) mechanical advantage.

Other types of hiders should be way easier to get though.

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Thayet
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>I don't know, I think limiting anyone from making their character look exactly how they want is silly.

I've been asking for 'fantasy armor and weapons' for years.

DR is super hung up on pointless realism. Keep the stats but allow me to have some 'bracers' which function like gloves. A 'breastplate' that functions as half plate or full plate, stuff that is more fantasy themed than walking around in a real-world-physics simulation of 'must cover all the bits'.

Heck, some magic property items, like the old scarab weapon/armor, where you tap it and it goes into a ring form, tap it, fully armored. But let me set the armor pieces it uses. It's nothing I can't do with a .005 second script, but it's cool.

>>Being able to drop something and have it shoo off WM fams would be really nice. Same for MM locate/etc. (I'm aware there are some tools for dealing with MMs, but they're a bit fiddly).

The anti-locate rings from Taisidon I think did fams too (I never confirmed though). Something to clear the room of familiars and prevent them from entering would be cool too though.

>>I was also thinking that it would be really nice if, as a thief, I could use my appraisal/scholarship to identify magic devices, even if it requires a wonky monocle or something.

I'd even settle for it being based on Arcana with a minor (100-200 rank) requirement. Would love something like this or even a device that just said "Hey that item is magical!" like what was suggested earlier.

>>It's irritating that I can't even identify scrolls I find because I can't train the skill to identify them :(

Grab a first aid compendium to train scholarship. Somewhere between 100 and 250 scholarship i stopped having trouble identifying scrolls on my thief. I don't remember exactly when though, it depends on the condition and material of the scroll.

I'd like to see a worn skinning/ritual knife that can be adjusted to be worn in a variety of slots.

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Thayet
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>>I'd like to see a worn skinning/ritual knife that can be adjusted to be worn in a variety of slots.

Yes. Also I REALLY want a knife I can wear in a non-belt slot that could also be hidden! I would settle for one with a bit of cambrinth in it (since I have a cambrinth hider). I realize there is one as a Prison quest prize, but I'd love to see more become available, particularly for the ankle slot.

>>Could we redo bundles so they are more like gem pouches?

Great QOL suggestion. Fiddling with the rope is always a pain.


- Navesi

Just wanted to say, I and other GMs have thoroughly enjoyed this thread and the numerous ideas from all of you -- even the impossible ones!

For me specifically, this thread has definitely become a spot I'll return to for projects to pick up for quite some time.

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NaOH+HI

>Fun idea drive? Count me in. Gwethsmashers for barbarians pls? Even if I have to put them in a headlock and manually smash their gweths. TY.

I'm for this, I mean it can be all runestone eating and breaking style. I think every time something like this is suggested I push for it. I think since NMUs are still Super Powered, then they should have an option.

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>>Can't thieves use smashers?

Yes.