As an update, among other reqs.

Mystic Blade, Nemesis, and Lightwielder all require 200 in primary weapon.

I'm sure they require other things, but thats the only req I can pin down at the moment.

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As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton

Do you have moonblade? Seems like a likely candidate.

I've tried to keep Elanthipedia updated with the latest info as I come across it.

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Moon Mages who get hit with HULP should indulge in their Survival Secondary side and run away.

-Armifer

I've been looking on Elanthipedia, but the last time I looked the Scion titles weren't even listed. And I know there's been posts mentioning them because I have them on my lists of info (before I actually got them in game). Unless I'm still looking in the wrong spot, which is possible - I'm not good at finding stuff on Elanthapedia. So I was just wondering if that was the place, or if not then where. Heh. Anywho...

Thanks!
Aluriaz

I don't know if the reqs for Scion of Yavash, Scion of Xibar, and Scion of Katamba are ALL the same. I only know I got all 3 of them when I hit 1000 PP. That's all I know.

Thanks for tryin to keep this all updated somewhere! I will find it!
I don't know why Elanthipedia is so hard for me. But I will find it!
Aluriaz

>So I was just wondering if that was the place, or if not then where. Heh. Anywho...

A text file on my hard drive. I sent it to someone else when I stopped actively trying to figure things out due to a lack of enough information to even guess at more than 5 or 6 titles, and I'm still holding out for more info to be discovered/guessed before it will really be share-worthy.

Everything that's ever been mentioned/confirmed in this folder should be in there, including stats from a few players who gave me their info to compare. Despite all the work that's been done in the past couple months I've managed to confirm every requirement for exactly two titles so far. That's why it isn't on Elanthipedia or anything.

~ Kougen

An opaque multi-armed devourer lovingly wraps itself around a puddle of water, only to shred it into bite-sized pieces and then swallow each bit in rapid succession.

For the sake of a little sanity, the following titles did not have their reqs changed (I think. Assuming I did all my highlights correctly).

All the generic circle based titles.
Contemplator
Mentalist
Mesmerist
Dreamer
Ascendant
Psychic
Illusionist
Novus
Astronomer
Luminary
Fortuneteller
Predictor
Diviner
Mathematician
Geometer
Darkling
Goldcap Aspirant
Clairaudient
Clairvoyant
Dissident
Mystic Blade
Hex
Fate Reaver
Celestian
Sophister
Fateweaver
G'nar Pethian
Nomad
Tezirite
Heritage Keeper

-Raesh

Archmage is not a moon mage title, and therefor did not change it's reqs. I only touched the titles in the Moon Mage, Sect and Astrology categories.

-Raesh

>But its just not enough to really try and pin point something out without some kind of guidance from Raesh.

This is it in a nutshell. I'll post anything I stumble across or try to help answer questions, but there's really no "info to share" that we're just not uploading.

~ Kougen

An opaque multi-armed devourer lovingly wraps itself around a puddle of water, only to shred it into bite-sized pieces and then swallow each bit in rapid succession.

>I wish we had a list cough

Like this?

10 Circle:

Initiate Moon Mage, Apprentice Moon Mage, Journeyman/woman Moon Mage, Moon Mage, Expert Moon Mage, Master Moon Mage, Grand Master Moon Mage, Legendary Moon Mage, Transcendent Moon Mage

32 Magic:

Stargazer, Medium, Contemplator, Mentalist, Mesmerist, Dreamer, Lunar Mage, Lunar Magician, Ascendant, Psychic, Dreamweaver, Illusionist, Novus, Occultist, Spectromancer, Puppet Master, Manipulator, Auspex, Enthraller*/Enchantress+, Astronomer, Lunarian, Wild Card, Astrologist, Lightcrafter, Luminary, Scion of Yavash, Scion of Xibar, Scion of Katamba, Scion of Grazhir, Illuminated, Orcris a Ilet Epato Sarbu

37 Prediction/Astro:

Lucky, Palm Reader, Austromancer, Chiromancer, Soothsayer, Luckbringer, Daydreamer, Augur, Fortuneteller, Visionist, Doomsayer, Dowser, Mystic, Predictor, Determinist, Diviner, Mantic, Seer*/Sibyl+, Fatebound, Aura Reader, Prophet, Omen, Ill Omen, Forecaster, Prescient, Omen Speaker, Forerunner, Portent, Portent Seeker, Far Seer, Precursor, Harbinger, Fateshaper, Fateshackled, Alda Pelan

17 Lore:

Pupil, Cold Reader, Meteorologist, Docent, Mathematician, Extrapolator, Philosopher, Geometer, Logarithmancer, Numinist, Sage, Logician, Fatalist, Cosmologist, Enlightened Geometer, Prognosticator, Alda Remoren

13 Survival:

Duskwalker, Darkling, Fade, Shadow of Fate, Shadow Magician, Goldcap Aspirant, Observer, Clairaudient, Clairvoyant, Discerner, Moromancer, Charlatan, Pseudomancer

29 Combat:

Dissident, Mystic Blade, Fate Blade, Psychokinetic, Telekinetic Warrior, Lightwielder, Mindflayer, Steelstorm, Shadow Reaver, Light Weaver, Shadow Mage, Shadow Weaver, Sliver Slinger, Hex, Displacer, Fate Reaver, Telekinetic Fury, Battlefield Scribe, Battlefield Scholar, Stalwart Scholar, Mystic Aegis, Geometric Warder, Spellbreaker, Spellbane, Astral Guardian, Nemesis, Prophetic Warrior, Precognitive Soldier, Y'Shai Aspirant

10 Ability:

Traveler, Telepath, Hypnotist, Psionic, Witness, Astral Traveler, All-Seeing, Transducer, Untethered, Planeswalker


~ Kougen

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>I wish we had a list cough

Like this?


No, was thinking more along the lines of one with all the reqs posted.

>No, was thinking more along the lines of one with all the reqs posted.

Reqs in (parenthesis) are old and to be used as a starting point only. Brackets are for notes, estimates or speculation.

10 Circle:

Nothing to figure out here.

32 Magic:

Stargazer
???

Medium
(10 Astrology)
(20 Power Perception)
(525 Total Magic)

Contemplator
20 Astrology
40 Power Perception

Mentalist
25 Astrology
50 Power Perception
Calm Spell

Mesmerist
40 Astrology
80 Power Perception
Hypnotize Spell

Dreamer
50 Astrology
100 Power Perception

Lunar Mage
50 Astrology
100 Power Perception

Lunar Magician
50 Astrology
100 Power Perception

Ascendant
60 Astrology
120 Power Perception
Teleport Spell

Psychic
75 Astrology
150 Power Perception
Thoughtcast Spell

Dreamweaver
???

Illusionist
120 Astrology
220 Power Perception
Mental Blast Spell
Dazzle Spell

Novus
120 Astrology
220 Power Perception
Dazzle Spell
Burn Spell

Occultist
???
1 Stellar Magic Spell?

Spectromancer
???

Puppet Master
???

Manipulator
? Astrlogy
? Power Perception
40 Charisma
Hypnotize Spell

Auspex
(260 Astrology)
(440 Power Perception)

Enthraller*/Enchantress+
(260 Astrology)
(440 Power Perception)
(Hypnotize Spell)
[+Something else per GM Raesh]

Astronomer
300 Astrology
500 Power Perception

Lunarian
(300 Astrology)
(500 Power Perception)
"Harder"

Wild Card
Probably requires 350 Astrology
? Power Perception

Astrologist
(300 Astrology)
(500 Power Perception)
"Much harder"

Lightcrafter
(550 Astrology)
(850 Power Perception)
"Easier + spell reqs"

Luminary
550 Astrology
850 Power Perception

Scion of Yavash
? Astrology
1000 PP

Scion of Xibar
? Astrology
1000 PP

Scion of Katamba
? Astrology
1000 PP

Scion of Grazhir
? Astrology
? PP

Illuminated
? Astrology
? PP

Orcris a Ilet Epato Sarbu
? Astrology
? PP


36 Prediction/Astrology:

[All of these have a prediction requirement now per GM Raesh.]

Lucky
Automatic upon joining

Palm Reader
(10 Astrology)

Austromancer
???

Chiromancer
???

Soothsayer
(10 Astrology)
(20 Power Perception)

Luckbringer
???

Daydreamer
???

Augur
(20 Astrology)
(40 Power Perception)

Fortuneteller
30 Astrology
50 Predictions

Visionist
(40 Astrology)
(80 Power Perception)

Doomsayer
(60 Astrology)

Dowser
???

Mystic
(100 Astrology)
(200 Power Perception)

Predictor
100 Astrology
? Predictions

Determinist
(120 Astrology)

Diviner
150 Astrology

Mantic
???

Seer*/Sibyl+
(Moon Mage)
(170 Astrology)
(120 Perception)
(Seer's Sense Spell)

Fatebound
(180 Astrology)
(320 Power Perception)
[Now has additional or higher reqs]

Aura Reader
???
Aura Sight Spell

Prophet
[250] Astrology

Omen
275 Astrology

Ill Omen
275 Astrology

Forecaster
300 Astrology

Prescient
???

Omen Speaker
(400 Astrology)

Forerunner
???

Portent
???
[Requirements do not follow from placement in list per GM Raesh]

Portent Seeker
???

Far Seer
(500 Astrology)
(350 Perception)
(Seer's Sense Spell)

Precursor
???

Harbinger
(600 Astrology)
(1000 Power Perception)
(400 Scholarship)
(10,000[?] Predictions)

Fateshaper
???

Fateshackled
???

Alda Pelan
(1000 Astrology)
+Other requirements

17 Lore:

Pupil
Automatic upon joining

Cold Reader
???

Meteorologist
(20 Astrology)
(20 Power Perception)
(40 Scholarship)

Docent
(50 Astrology)
(50 Power Perception)
(75 Scholarship)
(40 Teaching)

Mathematician
???

Extrapolator
???

Philosopher
(75 Astrology)
(75 Power Perception)
(150 Scholarship)
(75 Teaching)

Geometer
???

Logarithmancer
540 Arcana
???

Numinist
(100 Astrology)
(300 Power Perception)

Sage
(150 Astrology)
(150 Power Perception)
(300 Scholarship)
(150 Teaching)

Logician
???

Fatalist
???

Cosmologist
(300 Astrology)
(250 Power Perception)
(400 Scholarship)
(200 Teaching)

Enlightened Geometer
500 Scholarship
???

Prognosticator
600 Scholarship
<440 Astro (if any)
???

Alda Remoren
(1000 Scholarship)
+Other requirements

13 Survival:

Duskwalker
???

Darkling
???
Requires Darkness Spell

Fade
???
Requires Refractive Field

Shadow of Fate
???

Shadow Magician
???
Requires Darkness Spell

Goldcap Aspirant
800 Hiding
800 Stalking
Refractive Field Spell

Observer
???

Clairaudient
100 Astrology
200 Power Perception
100 Perception
Distant Gaze Spell

Clairvoyant
100 Astrology
200 Power Perception
100 Perception
Shadewatch Mirror Spell

Discerner
???

Moromancer
???

Charlatan
???
Possibly requires [30-90] Stealing

Pseudomancer
???
40 Charisma

29 Combat:

Dissident
???

Mystic Blade
(200 Weapon)[?]
Seer's Sense Spell

Fate Blade
???

Psychokinetic
???

Telekinetic Warrior
???

Lightwielder
? Weapon
? TM
Requires 3 spells

Mindflayer
Probably requires 200 highest weapon/armor
Shear spell

Steelstorm
???
May require TKS Spell

Shadow Reaver
???
Requires Dinazen Olkar Spell

Light Weaver
???
3 Spells

Shadow Mage
???
Requires Dinazen Olkar Spell

Shadow Weaver
? Hiding
? Stalking
? ?
? Escaping
? Spell

Sliver Slinger
<100 TM
TKT Spell
Moonblade Spell

Hex
? TM

Displacer
? TM
Probably requires Whole and/or Partial Displacement Spells

Fate Reaver
300? TM

Telekinetic Fury
? TM
May require TKS Spell

Battlefield Scribe
???

Battlefield Scholar
???

Stalwart Scholar
???

Mystic Aegis
???
May require Cage of Light Spell

Geometric Warder
???
May require Cage of Light Spell

Spellbreaker
???
Probably requires Shear Spell

Spellbane
???
Probably requires Shear spell

Astral Guardian
???

Nemesis
? PM (Warding)
? TM
? Weapon
? Armor
? Evasion

Prophetic Warrior
? PM (Warding)
? TM
? Weapon
? Armor
? Evasion
+ spell reqs

Precognitive Soldier
? PM (Warding)
? TM
? Weapon
? Armor
? Evasion
+ spell reqs

Y'Shai Aspirant
(800 Weapon)
(800 Armor)
(1000 TM)
(Moonblade Spell)

* Note: No title reqs more than 1 weapon or 1 armor.

10 Ability:

Traveler
(40 Astrology)
(80 Power Perception)
(Teleport Spell)

Telepath
(120 Astrology)
(220 Power Perception)
(Thoughtcast Spell)

Hypnotist
(20 Astrology)
(40 Power Perception)
(Hypnotize Spell)

Psionic
(350 Astrology)
(700 Power Perception)
[<498 PP if not removed entirely]
(At least 5 Psychic Projection Spells)

Witness
???
May require Distant Gaze or SHM Spell

Astral Traveler
???
Probably requires access to AP

All-Seeing
???
May require Distant Gaze or SHM Spell

Transducer
???
Probably requires X Transduction Spells

Untethered
???

Planeswalker
"At least one skill above 1200 and another skill below 1200"

FALLENSHADOWS has probably filled in or narrowed down quite a bit, but that's what I have currently.

~ Kougen

An opaque multi-armed devourer lovingly wraps itself around a puddle of water, only to shred it into bite-sized pieces and then swallow each bit in rapid succession.

Telekentic Warrior - TM + Weapon + Spell

Lightwielder - Reqs three spells. Moonblade is one of them.

Light Weaver - Reqs three spells, but CrS is not one of them.

Shadow Weaver - Correct.

Nemesis - 200 weapon is correct, with a lot of other reqs.

Untethered - You're looking in the wrong spell book for the fourth spell.

-Raesh

Light Weaver - 2/3

Untethered - I would say it's a common spell, and if you think about what the title means for a bit I think you'll figure it out. Hint: Whole Displacement has two separate functions, but only one of them earned it a spot as a preq for this title.

By the by - Untethered also reqs a moon mage ability beyond the four spells, I can't recall if that's been mentioned before.

-Raesh

>>Light Weaver - 2/3

Burn, COL, Dazzle?

>>Untethered - I would say it's a common spell, and if you think about what the title means for a bit I think you'll figure it out. Hint: Whole Displacement has two separate functions, but only one of them earned it a spot as a preq for this title.

The only thing I can think of is Teleport, but that's a prereq for Moongate which makes it seem odd as a title req.

>>By the by - Untethered also reqs a moon mage ability beyond the four spells, I can't recall if that's been mentioned before.

Knowledge of astral travel?

I guess this means that some of the people on your list who don't have Untethered might be missing it because of this ability.

Best that I can pin down on Logarithmancer was as below. Prophet was 50-100 (closer to 70-90 I think) predictions beyond Logarithmancer, required less than 373 astro (believe it might be 300)

At least 280 in Scholarship skill.

At least 217 in Astrology skill.

Must have performed ? Predictions

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Moon Mages who get hit with HULP should indulge in their Survival Secondary side and run away.

-Armifer

>>Teleport would be in the same (wrong) spellbook you've been looking in. The fourth spell is not a transduction spell.

Oh. Duh. This is what I get for not having my spellbook memorized while posting at work...

The only one I can think of that's not in Transduction is... Sever Thread.

My bet would be Shadow Servant


- Player of Holloway -

>>Prognosticator just showed up at 600 scholarship (currently have 440 astro).

I'm taking note of this, but I unfortunately have noone to compare it to to confirm.

Only people in my sample who have over 600 scholarship either have significantly less astro or significantly more. Some people were close though 550+ scholarship so they may have it now.

(sorry for the double post)
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As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton

>>Only people in my sample who have over 600 scholarship either have significantly less astro or significantly more. Some people were close though 550+ scholarship so they may have it now.<<

I can confirm that with 571 scholarship and 516 astro, i do not have Prognosticator as a title.

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