I will confirm that Shadow Weaver has an escaping req - and it only reqs one spell that is not DO.

Shadow Magician is the second highest survival/stealth title before Goldcap Aspirant. The reqs are... not mild.

Omen and Ill Omen are correct - but there is also a prediction requirement. There is a prediction requirement on every title in the "prediction/astro" category.

-Raesh

Do only normal predictions count towards the counter or do tool predictions count also?

Can someone post the new sect titles? I think I've seen the monks and compact but none of the others.

My moon mage has the Shadow Weaver title with 255 escaping.

You recall the spells you have learned from your training.

In the chapter entitled "Perception," you have notes on the Clear Vision [cv], Piercing Gaze [pg], Locate, Distant Gaze [dg], Seer's Sense [seer], and Aura Sight [aus] spells.

In the chapter entitled "Psychic Projection," you have notes on the Hypnotize [calm], Mental Blast [mb], Psychic Shield [psy], Shadowling, Shadow Servant, and Thoughtcast spells.

In the chapter entitled "Moonlight Manipulation," you have notes on the Shadows, Focus Moonbeam [fm], Dazzle, Refractive Field [rf], Tezirah's Veil [tv], Shift Moonbeam [sm], Dinazen Olkar [do], Crystal Spike [crs], Clarify Gem [cg], and Shadow Web [sdwb] spells.

In the chapter entitled "Transduction," you have notes on the Telekinetic Throw [tkt], Burn, Moonblade, Teleport, Telekinetic Storm [tks], Moongate [mg], Shape Moonblade [shmo], Seal of Deflection [sod], Unleash, Whole Displacement [wd], Contingency, Partial Displacement [pd], Ripple, Shear, Riftal Summons [rs], Imbue, Cage of Light [col], and Invocation of Energy [ioe] spells.

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Kougen do you have an AIM we can send info to or would you prefer just the email version?


Damian, a voice from the distant and long-forgotten past.
AIM:DamianDR

You can send me what you have, I'll try and figure out what I can.

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>You can send me what you have, I'll try and figure out what I can.

Sent to your play.net

~ Kougen

"I, too, routinely compare DragonRealms to being maimed by a sandpaper-wielding sadist." -Armifer

So far on Wild Card,

I'm at 650 PM / 650 Harness
with a possible req of 350 astro, which I can't confirm.

There is definitely no TM req attached to it.

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Might help on some of the bounding for Wildcard...

PM: 516
Harn: 571
PP: 576
Astro: 364

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Moon Mages who get hit with HULP should indulge in their Survival Secondary side and run away.

-Armifer

I have wildcard

550+ astro
750+ PP
750+ MD
875+ Harness
850+ lunar magic
450+ TM

>>Is perhaps wildcard one of the sect titles?

Doubtful. I have it and, like 90% of other Moon Mages from pre-2003, I'm Compact.

I can't add anything to the discussion except I am certain it is not tied to TM and have a suspicion it is tied to Charisma.

Wild card is a fairly standard medium-high level "magic" title. This category includes many of the old MM titles, reqs unchanged, and was mostly expanded to have a smoother progression.

This means they also all follow the same format of:

X Astro
Y PP

Where Y > X

Occasionally they have a spell req or other (non skill) based req for thematic reasons. Wild Card is not one of those.

-Raesh

Well since you guys already have the order from earlier in the thread and these titles follow a narrow theme:

Lunarian, Astrologist and Astronomer all use to have the same req. As did Lightcrafter and Luminary (And Shadebringer for that matter, but Shadebringer suffered a different fate).

Astronomer - unchanged
Lunarian - harder
Wild Card - new
Astrologist - even harder
Lightcrafter - easier + Spellreqs
Luminary - unchanged

That should give you some boundaries to work with.

Note that there are still titles in the category that share reqs (Though none listed above) and the ratio of astro to PP is not constant. It starts at 2:1 and works it's way down to about 1.4:1.

-Raesh

Oh snap, that's pretty awesome. I like that scheme of title requirements, where skills relate to each other more so than just each having a base amount of ranks.

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Shadebringer found a new, happier, shadier, home. However that home only exist in an earlier version of the new titles. Hopefully it'll return once some other things are resolved, but I cannot promise it.

As for astro vs PP - correct, the titles I classified as "astro" titles do not require PP (or at least most of them do not, I'm not at home to double check that they all do not). However the titles that I classified as magic kept to the traditional PP/Astro theme for MM titles with the emphasis on the magic (PP).

-Raesh

somebody may have figured this one out but i've been looking for a while and i haven't seen it clarified, so does anybody know what the reqs are for the shadowmancer title from the progeny now? the only ones i have from them now are Tezirite, Enoptromancer and Umbromancer. i've seen it on other people's lists so it seems to still be in there but i dunno how to get it back. i figure maybe the tezirite titles have shadow spells as a requirement but i recently learned TV and that didn't help. the only other ones i don't have are shadow web and darkness but i haven't seen if any of the titles have scroll spell reqs. i do think it's a little crappy to have lost a title i busted my ass to get 25 circles ago, but i'll be perfectly happy if i can just figure out what i need to do to get it back. so any thoughts would be handy

honestly every tezirite I've met has that one o.O

If your low on hiding (sub 200) then I believe its probably that.

All in all though I haven't met many tezzies as of late.


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-The Restaurant at the end of the galaxy

Hope they recorded it so I can watch it and eat popcorn.

It'd be like a youtube night,

Also, Someone give me a title so I can start narrowing stuff down.
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-The Restaurant at the end of the galaxy

It would be great if the requirements for each title were released. I know that I enjoy having a specific goal in mind when I am training. If it is vague I think there is a risk of players losing interest.

Cheers!
Rilely

I know it's not exactly what you're looking for, but if there are still a few titles you're really stumped on what the heck they require - I'll be happy to point you in the general direction.

I would ask soon though - I'm out of town for a week starting Thursday so you've only got about 48 hours to get requests in if you want them answered any time soon.

-Raesh