Taletellers.

Showstoppers

Nikpack

The gods are jerks. No, really.-Armifer

I don't think we ever take the training wheels off as players or gamemasters.-Inauri

Street Musicians of course


Segmere
Shadow Priest, Baron's Own Militia

"The best cure for insomnia is to get a lot of sleep." ~WC Fields

The Ways are already IG so why not Gleeman? :P

Stageperformer.

I think Storyteller sounds cool but I also think it is too closely related to what the Lorekeeper is supposed to do.

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~Leilond
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Leilond
http://soundsoftime.bravehost.com

I like mythmaker a lot.

Nikpack

The gods are jerks. No, really.-Armifer

I don't think we ever take the training wheels off as players or gamemasters.-Inauri

Not sure if Allegory would fit.


Regards,

Sortny/Braunwen

I hope I don't get ejected from the Bard folder.
This is not suppose to be offensive or a bardshot at all, but simply because of "Performers", and looking for two-word combos, the first thinking that popped in to mind was
Dramaqueens
and I laughed a little.

Then more serious things did pop in to my head, stream of consciousness style, kind of along Issus's themes.

Worlddreamers or Worldweavers
Legendmasters or Mythmasters (I liked the Mythmakers above)(but not Mythbusters)
Storykeepers (I liked the unassuming Storytellers above too)
Dreamkeepers, Dreamseers
Fablekeepers, Fablemasters, Masterfablers
Sagamakers, Sagakeepers, Sagaseers, Saga{something}
Sagaspeakers, Lifespeakers, Mythspeakers, Dreamspeakers, Worldspeakers
{something}spinners
{something}crafters (not Lenscrafters)

I see the symmetry of keeping all three as two-word combinations, but I also think simple words like "Speakers", "Fablers", "Players", could seem less artificial, and give some organic reality to all three? I'm having trouble thinking of a single word title of sufficient coolness though.

Man, I am sorry you guys have to suffer the consequences of my bored Friday afternoon.

~Brian/Bahb

>>Bahb

Hey now, watch out. Dramaqueens have mega battle sparklies.


- Terra

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that "Lorekeepers" are the ones who know all of the legend, lore, stories, tradition, etc. and are the ones more associated with magical endeavors such as hindsight and recall(not really magical). "Performers" are the ones who sing, dance, play instruments, perform acts upon the stage, read poetry, write songs and are generally acrobatic in nature. Correct?

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~Leilond
http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Leilond
http://soundsoftime.bravehost.com

I know it is already used by the Tavern Troupe, but I like Troupers.

Fablemasters and Wordsmiths are good as well.

I was thinking of some simpler ones that wouldn't really relate to just one aspect of a "Performer":

The Architects - not of buildings but more like Performance Architects.

Redcoats - is a term I saw that pertains to performers as well.

I saw the term Sightreaders as well which I thought was neat, who are performers who don't read music or anything before a performance.

Thespians and Players might be too specific for a whole branch of Performers, but I liked the terms.

Glad to know it's not just us GM types which are struggling with a good term for this!

For now I'll let the brainstorming continue and just note that the summary earlier in the thread of the differences between a Performer and a Lorekeeper is accurate.

-Raesh

Rhythm weaver or rhythm walker?

In a way, the word rhythm can be used to describe dance, instrumentals, singing, poetry, story telling, acrobatics, sound and speech patterns...

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~Faih

Performing Artist

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Victory Over Lyras, on the 397th year and 156 days since the Victory of Lanival the Redeemer.

I actually originally had "Taleweavers" as my first choice for this, but then I thought it might be thrown out because it's already a title. It's my post-title and one of my favorite titles period.

Headliners was another one.

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Bella
>>There are 7 levels of hell, she said, & I think one of them is reserved for people who bring jello salads to every potluck they go to.

Stagecrafter
Entertainer
Thespian
Stage lyricist
Rhythmist
Troubadour (I kinda like this one because it means both composer and performer. It doesn't have to be limited to one genre.)

Speaking of genres...there's the muses. Music kinda means art of the muses and just to add this thought.

Muse	Domain	Emblem
Calliope	Epic poetry	Writing tablet
Clio	History	Scrolls
Erato	Lyric poetry	Cithara (an ancient Greek musical instrument in the lyre family)
Euterpe	Music	Aulos (an ancient Greek musical instrument)
Melpomene	Tragedy	Tragic mask
Polyhymnia	Choral poetry	Veil
Terpsichore	Dance	Lyre
Thalia	Comedy	Comic mask
Urania	Astronomy	Globe and compass

I'm not saying all of that fits but it's an interesting thought. I could see epic poetry, history, lyrical poetry, elemental magic for lore keepers and music, tragedy, choral poetry, dance/acrobatics and comedy for the performers kinda.

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~Faih

All the attempts to make this a compound word are ridiculous, contrived, and seem to obscure what the sect will really be.. Performer, Entertainer, and maybe Troubadour are the only options that seem fitting. Try passing any candidates through this test: If we called the sect _, would the player of a non-bard get the general idea of what they do? If the answer is "no", pick something else.

Performer passes this test. Heck, I'm not even sure "Songsworn" passes for the combat sect. Lorekeeper is perfect.

Perhaps you could benefit from really defining what each sect will be; we have the gross overview of 'fight, lore, other'. Performance really borrows heavily on lore, but also imbues the creation of new rather than the regaling of old.

By defining the other two well, you define what the third is not, so it might become easier to name it.

It just seems like a lot of the names are more lore-appropriate than performance.

You could also simply explain in detail what niche you want the 'other' role to be.

Alright. I'll take a whack at it, without getting into the nitty gritty.

Please note - my BardFu is still weak - so if Vaeldriil has said anything that contradicts this, or later says something that contradicts it - assume she's right.

Songsworn
I'm going to stay a little big cagey on this one - they're a secretive order, and the lack of information out there for players right now is somewhat intentional.

Their central focus will be on combat, but to join the Songsworn one must prove themselves in other areas as well; Information gathering, evading capture, tracking down targets, influencing those around you and more.

Fictional Example: Michael Westen from Burn Notice.

Focus: While weapons are the most important, a Songsworn will likely need to draw on all skill sets to be successful.

Lorekeepers
Not as formal of an organization as the Songsworn, the Lorekeepers find their roots in court scribes/heralds/historians. The Lorekeepers were particularly important during that little skirmish with the Dragon Priests. While they do their bardic duty of passing on information to others, their central focus is on the collection and preservation of history and lore.

Fictional Example: Sazed from Mistborn.

Focus: Lore (Particularly non-musical), with a secondary theme of magic.

Performers
While every Bard is a performer to some degree, the true Performer takes this a step further. The most important thing to a Performer is that they have something they wish to express to their audience; be it a moral, a story, a particular emotional state etc. The media through which they tell the story isn't particularly important. While many outsiders believe a Performer craves attention above all else, this is usually a distant secondary motive to conveying their message.

Fictional Example: Thom from Wheel of Time (Though he has a strong dash of Lorekeeper in him too).

Focus: Charisma, Lores (Particularly musical), and Survival (Particularly anything acrobatic - escaping, climbing, evasion, perception, stealing perhaps lockpicking and disarm).

Also note that this is still very much a work in progress, so things may change etc.

-Raesh

>drool

*hands you a clean handkerchief*

Don't drool on your instruments. You'll have to repair them.

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~Faih