>> Sorry if this question is redundant but even after the reading through the guides on the wiki I am wondering if THW warriors are long term viable long term without having to rely on spells?

My THW warrior is only in his 40s so far so I don't have personal experience through to cap with this build. That said, I know of a few warriors that made it to cap and seemed to do very well as THW warriors so seems very viable. At least two of them hunted the rift at cap which is pretty much self spelled. I can't speak to their spell usage along the way. For my THW warrior, he typically only hunts with wizard spells and does quite well. On the occasions where I don't use wizard spells it is still doable but I have to be a bit more careful.

>> Currently play a THW empath since I really enjoy swinging big weapons and am pretty decent at hunting same level and do not need a single spell from other classes but I am wondering if i would be better playing a warrior since thats how my empath is trained.

I think either path is viable - they will play / train a bit differently as with the empath you will still be using spells for some of your defense where a warrior will be training more physical skills for defense. Also you will be trading some spells as an empath for CMANs as a warrior. Again, either path seems completely playable from my perspective.


>> Also I currently use a claid but have heard that a maul might be a better choice as a THW due to some recent changes, any thoughts?

The warrior THW advice that was given to me and that I pass along is that a maul is a great choice if you are aiming your attacks (at the head). Greataxe (my personal choice for my dwarven warrior) is a good choice if you aren't aiming your THW attacks.

A lot of people like claidhs early on - I'm not sure that I see that many people using them later in life (happy to have people chime in and correct me on this). For me, I want the higher AS that you typically can't get out of a claid at higher levels (unless you have lots of $$$ to throw around on one of the very high end ones).

I'm sure there are some folks out there that can give you some better insights into your questions than I can but thought I'd toss my two silvers worth out there as well.

-- Robert

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Thanks for the info, its much appreciated. I have a +8 claid and AS right now isnt an issue but man even with my self spells my DS is pitiful, currently wearing 4x brig. With trolls blood i can survive a bit more of a beating then other pures but CMANS are a weakness.

I dont really use spells except 117/spirit strike other then that mana and stamina are used for sigils. I love the idea of wearing plate and swinging a big sword with multistrike and berserking but would hate to require spells from other classes to make it to cap. If more experienced warriors could shed some light on this I would be appreciated.

>I dont really use spells except 117/spirit strike other then that mana and stamina are used for sigils. I love the idea of wearing plate and swinging a big sword with multistrike and berserking but would hate to require spells from other classes to make it to cap. If more experienced warriors could shed some light on this I would be appreciated.

You don't require them, but doing without them completely rather than only on occasions when they aren't readily available will eventually become a serious handicap. Just when it becomes a serious handicap will depend on how tactically savvy you are, but I really wouldn't want to be without items and scrolls past level 60.

You probably lean towards Sunfist from a standpoint of not being a Warrior. :) Remember that their goal is to be in heavy armor--which lends itself to not getting all that wounded all that quickly--and then getting damage reduction on top (which makes wounds even less likely).
The difficulty lies in groups (being able to add another small wound to an existing area) and vulnerabilities to spells.

I have never played in Voln, but the obvious strength is that it opens up the entire world of undead to you... and Reim has nothing that is NOT undead.

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I'm of the opinion that the purely weapon professions have a bit of a hard road earlier on (they are NOT yet in heavy armor, and have no substantial reduction to help... whereas the Semis are dishing out spells as well as being double-trained in the same weapons) but that mass spells or some Scroll/Item use skill ranks help out a LOT.

"Reim is the reason I have a sack with gems blessed with every spell a cleric can bless into them." -- Rathboner

This. THIS is the step that I keep forgetting to do!

I keep getting hung up on Create Item/420 and the whole "thinking of Mage & Sorcerer spells only" step.

Thanks for the reminder! :)

"MBP at level 22. I'm not sure it pays to be in full plate asap, but getting into MBP is huge and thats the point where you start to shrug hits off. Prior to that you get as damaged as anyone" -- Rathboner

To be fair, you can be in chain (okay, torso only) at what, 11th level/12 trains/35 of 36 possible ranks == 130 skill, and you've got the RT accounted for?

While chain isn't quite as good as plate, you are still taking less damage if you get tagged.

Sure, it's still better not to get hit at all, but compared to someone singling who may only be at the high end of the Soft Leather group... <shrug>

<Sure, it's still better not to get hit at all, but compared to someone singling who may only be at the high end of the Soft Leather group... >

I would seriously question the sanity of a warrior that was 1x in Armor. Rogues can get away with it cause they have the shadows and monks have their mental spells, but warriors don't have either of those, so they're going to get hit and need to minimize the impact of that (esp if they're not using a shield). Sure, they can get a dreavening and probably be ok, but why use a crutch when you can stand on your own two legs?

Not saying they have to be full 3x, but 1x is just unnecessarily painful.


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I was wondering about how much dodge to plan for, I thought there was a major penalty while in plate.

you guys are great, thanks for all the help hopefully I will make warriors proud!