So ever since the change to max creature spawning in Reim, our Hand of the Arkati MHO runs have noticed an issue with getting tag credit. We've verified ALL attendees are capped or at least 96+. A rare will spawn in and although someone hits the creature 2-3 times with actual damage done to the creature, they do not get flagged as being able to progress to the next area. Is there any way we can get some assistance to see if there is an issue/bug or if there is something we aren't aware of that would be causing these hit rares to not give clear credit for those that landed hits. Thanks.

Yes. In multiple cases they've gotten the kill shot or hit for over 100 points and still not cleared to the next area.

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The flamepoint sand kitten hisses at a patchwork flesh monstrosity.
... 9 points of damage!

And even then, people who are doing 512 water soaking, plain 410 ewave, or 709 arm grabbing that does NO DMG get tag credit. So the dealing "significantly contribute to the kill" is quite questionable in terms of what is causing tag credit.

We're wondering the same thing if there's a hard cap on how many people can get "tag" credit on a mob. If this is the case, we'd love to know for sure that hey, creatures do have a limit on who is flagged to have "tagged" and would be even greater to know what that limit is. We're trying to notice if there is a pattern to the madness and we'll start checking to see when in the order of hitting the rare mobs the ones that get no credit land.

Nothing was changed to my knowledge in terms of the number of people who can tag.

The main thing that will make someone NOT get credit is if there is a large level difference. The other is the method of tag.

Retser, ASGM

Save some logs of your entire combat with the rare when this happens.

What spell or attack method did the people use who did not get credit? What level was the potential contributor and what level did the creature spawn at? You can tell this by seeing who the "Rare" rushes at when it spawns in the messaging.

I have not heard any other reports of this yet.

Reim looks at another system to see who "contributed" to the kill.

Retser, ASGM

I forgot that on that area we had Morgahan miss as well, his excerpt from same log:

Morgahan exhales a virulent green mist toward the Knight Captain, instantly infecting her. The Knight Captain convulses violently!

... 20 points of damage!

Quick blow to the belly causes the Knight Captain to drift backwards slightly.

Another rare did spawn and Morgahan & Wolfstarr hit that one as well, but Wolfstarr still did not get credit. We had to wait for a 3rd rare to spawn. I can provide those logs as well, but I feel you get the idea already.

And for posterity, here's the 2nd rare wave that spawned. Morgahan got credit here but Wolfstarr (who casted 635 and hit the rare) did not get credit.

https://gist.github.com/mrhoribu/6e57399823571e5faa980bd17e4c8783

Excerpt of Wolfstarr's 635 that hit the Knight Captain

The surroundings advance upon the Knight Captain with relentless fury!

Warding failed!

The Knight Captain is struck by a sharp piece of hard debris!

... 23 points of damage!

... 10 points of damage!

A weak slap on the wrist.

That's not going to reform a soul.

... 10 points of damage!

Glancing blow to the right arm leaves a trail of vapor in its wake.

... 5 points of damage!

Right ankle stung!

The Knight Captain stamps in silent annoyance.

... 5 points of damage!

Glancing blow to the right arm leaves a trail of vapor in its wake.

KRAKII

Isn't pestilence reactive, though? I wouldn't think it would count...

It's damage, so it counts.

GameMaster Estild

Lets get a few more samplings from your next few runs to see if we can find a common thread.

If it is just a problem with one player, I vote you no longer bring that player. Problem solved.

Retser, ASGM

As much as that would be fun to go "You are the weakest link, goodbye!" unfortunately it's not the same person. It changes and there's no rhyme or reason to it. I'll try to gather a few more logs from the next few nights we run progression.

Well in the first log I posted, Morgahan didn't get credit and technically he hit FIRST with his pestilence, then FIFTH with his 709 graspy arms. So no, don't think it's anything to do with position that I can tell.

Ok, been busy over past few nights so haven't had a chance to really get another log. But did tonight. We were in the last area (Royal Wing) and Melivn, Hoodtralfeck and Ktovashy didn't get credit or missed previous rare credit from prior wave. On this wave Ktovashy & Hoodtralfeck both got credit but Melivn did not. Melivn landed a 709 grasp of the grave on the Royal Princess, followed by several casts of 705 and even landed the killing blow on the Royal Empress. Something is definitely up. Not sure what though at this time of the night I believe we had 19 people in the group, but don't quote me on that number. It could be 18. EVERYONE in the group this evening was level 100 as well.

Log: https://gist.github.com/mrhoribu/22a1573d1a2764b777e6bd5e3aa666d7

I'll have to find some time to get on when you're next running to gather more data from my side.

Retser, ASGM

Also, Melivn made the following image chart to help in case you need further assistance. It's stickied in our discord for our members to also reference.

https://i.imgur.com/MzByzMB.png

Katie's has been affected a fair amount by this bug in the past few weeks. There was one night last week where she hit five rares in the village with an assortment of minor spirit and clerical spells and did not clear. It's gotten bad enough that the last run I did, when I hit two rares and didn't clear, I left the group and went and cleared to the road on my own before the group progressed.

I can find logs of this if it would be helpful, let me know.

For Katie, the village is the spot that really gets her; the other areas are generally not too bad.