So, I've never actually seen the list of problems thrown combat has. I've been playing with it for a week and curious if I've hit all the problem areas or if I'm missing any?

Problems I've found with the system...
-lack of untargetted attack option (ie typing hurl by itself doesn't attack anything like typing attack does)
-lack of multi-target attack option (it's a bit gimp in swarms, especially when combined with first issue)
-Wonky RT - picking up a box shoots RT through the roof
-lack of DS - since the skill can be used with non-thrown types it doesn't get a parry DS and that hurts

That about sum it up, or did I miss something?

Dgry

Hurling weapons go off into the distance like arrows right?

Ranged has the advantage of "oh, LOOK, there's a bow in his hand, he must get Ranged DS"... whereas Thrown the system says, "Oh, look, nothing in his hands, he's borked for DS."

If the 'hurl' verb triggered a short-duration effect--which maybe showed up as either a status icon [in the Wizard, icon boxes] or a spell/miscellaneous effect [in 'spell active']--that said, "Oh, he just threw a weapon, let's give him some Ranged DS!" then much of the direct problem of having to train in Brawling (or the weapon type you're Hurling, if you are lucky enough to have a Returner) would be mitigated.

<the only way you can lose them is if you move rooms and the janitor grabs it.>

It should be noted that if a weapon is hidden in the shadows and you move to another room, even for less then a second, the janitor will almost always take it before you get back. I lost a couple weapons when hunting hisskra when those stupid lizards snatched them up after I was disarmed and I didn't realize they'd HURLed them into the shadows until after I'd already stepped into the next room. So make sure you SEARCH for lost weapons before running around to see if something else picked it up.

Starchitin

A severed gnomish hand crawls in on its fingertips and makes a rude gesture before quickly decaying and rotting into dust. A gust of wind quickly scatters the dust.

Or having your weapon bounce off a piece of lichen when hunting liches. Not cool Gemstone, not cool.

>> Several years ago I asked for a "force end-of-line character" for general use. <<
>> (Both 'sing' and 'loresing' already had one: the semi-colon ";" indicates new-line. At this point, I think the PlayerShop signage has one, too, and maybe CHE/MHO signs & announcements as well.) <<

>> That way you could write your macro with "hurl lich<whatever that character wound up being>\r" and know that it would NOT target the 'lichen' because you want lich-with-nothing-after-it. <<

Hello! Just passing through, and thought I would rain on some parades, burst some bubbles, and crush dreams.

That really isn't how it works.

The ';' character used for the systems you mentioned doesn't do a thing to change how the game interprets data, it merely changes the display of that data to make it prettier for our silly human eyes. The bits of the game that figure out what you are trying to target when you ATTACK, SMILE, SAY, or essentially target something in anyway is handled deep in the belly of the beast where none dare tread. And by not dare, I mean to say we can't. And by we, I mean off-site staff.

Oh yes, standard disclaimer: I am NOT on the Dev team. I have NO say, power, or authority over the thrown or combat systems in general. I could, um... make pretty throwing daggers maybe, and that's about it.

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GM Reidyn
CE Systems

Well, with melee attacks, if I attack an inanimate object, I get the "ambush mercilessly" message, not "you're an idiot and just attacked an herb". Just do what needs to be done to go to the ambush message and problem solved.