<<<"How's that thrown review coming?" he asked to the yawning abyss which long ago ripped his soul out through his eyes and used it to beat his dreams of non-borked thrown mechanics into a bloody pile of tears and shattered expectations.>>>

Well at least it hasn't troubled you much.

~ Heathyr

mebbe they still be sittin on it ...


Clunk

(Buy your swords at CBD weapons in Zul Logoth.)

Maybe we should just turn this into a forum game, start taking bets on how long it will take to get a response to this issue? We'll have to have one of those gambling peoples make up some rules though, anything beyond playing poker is out of my depth.

Hey Finros, go fix thrown.

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!>tell child to be quiet
The child cries, "I don't wanna!"

Yessir.

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!>tell child to be quiet
The child cries, "I don't wanna!"

Clearly, the fix should be the ability for us to throw monks at targets.

- Metadi
Speaking to Hadya, you scold, "You Luukosians and your altared realities."

Eh. Thanks for being honest, Fin. Yell at someone to take an interest when you get the chance.

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!>tell child to be quiet
The child cries, "I don't wanna!"

I'm just thrilled throwing monks wasn't ruled out.

I just want kitchen sinks as a thrown weapon type!

The Curse of the Thrown Combat Review strikes again. So very disappointing.

Just to be clear, my calling on Finros was in good fun. To imply he in any way was or should be responsible for the thrown review is flat out wrong. If anything, you should be appreciative of the response you got. It is a very, very rare thing for GS to get a straight answer, whether its the one you wanted or not.

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!>tell child to be quiet
The child cries, "I don't wanna!"

>We should be appreciative of being told that it's not happening YET AGAIN? Appreciative that we even got a response?

Yes. This is most certainly NOT the standard you will find around here.

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!>tell child to be quiet
The child cries, "I don't wanna!"

>"YOU. SHALL. NOT. PASS!" - what thrown says to any GM that attempts to cross the bridge from idea to release

It isn't quite that bad. But combat system redesign and re-implementation is tricky, and it is easy to get overwhelmed by the details.

>p.s. Can you give monks the thrown hat decapitating weapon as seen in such kung fu documentaries as "Master of the Flying Guillotine" and "Iron Monkey 2"? :)

I do have to admit that I'm a fan of exotic headgear -- and Oddjob's bowler hat is something I've thought about. Such an item isn't outside the realm of possibility.

>And yet not surprising in the slightest, nor is the staff attitude displayed by Finros to just give up on it happening.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but you've called me out personally about a project that I had nothing to do with, merely because I stated that it is on pause. Is it really a surprise that most staff members aren't exactly eager to chime in on such subjects, when the result is to be personally criticized?

As always, I remain willing to give input wherever specifically asked, but I wouldn't be able to honestly advise another staff member that it is rewarding to do so, if one were to ask my opinion on the matter.

<<<I believe that updating players on game development should be part of the job>>>

It's a little unfair, I think, to expect Finros--or any other GM--to provide an "update" on the development of parts of the game they have absolutely nothing to do with. When they chime in, it's welcome and appreciated, but they're certainly under no obligation to do so. Especially when the message is, essentially, "Nothing to report." ;)

~ Heathyr and friends

Called you out? No, I merely stated that the attitude displayed by staff is that thrown is not important. Even when we had a GM claim to be nearly finished with the review at one point. Somehow despite it being nearly finished, we're now back to square one and it's back to the drawing board when and if a new GM takes an interest?

When a GM works on thrown review and leaves staff, all progress is gone with that GM and the thrown review languishes. For years. It's a pretty poorly designed system that progress isn't saved and able to be continued and finished at some point by someone else on staff.

I'm sorry you feel that I was being critical of you or somehow calling you out. I was merely expressing frustration that after months of asking for an update, the first answer we get is 'not happening'.

-Richard/Fjalar.