Estild-

Since you're being so open and generous about lore benefits, how about describing the per tier benefit for necro energy/juice accumulation?

Thanks :)

>Necromancy lore provides a flat modifier, using a seed 1 summation / 2. So at 100 lore ranks, it provides +6 points for each kill, which is 60% bonus against like level kills.

The dividing by 2 is very confusing to me. Since it is truncating, one only receives additional benefits every two tiers?

>> >Necromancy lore provides a flat modifier, using a seed 1 summation / 2. So at 100 lore ranks, it provides +6 points for each kill, which is 60% bonus against like level kills.

>> The dividing by 2 is very confusing to me. Since it is truncating, one only receives additional benefits every two tiers?

That is what the example provided would seem to indicate.

Tier 12 is at 78 ranks
Tier 13 is at 91 ranks
Tier 14 is at 105 ranks


Someone with 90 lore ranks would have 12 / 2 = 6 from each kill.
Someone with 100 lore ranks would have 13 / 2 = 6.5 (truncated down to 6 points) from each kill.

-- Robert

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VANKRASN39

Estild-

Since you're being so open and generous about lore benefits, how about describing the per tier benefit for necro energy/juice accumulation?

Thanks :)

Sorcerers are allowed to gain up to 10,000 necrotic energy points per week or 35,000 total. Each like level kill is 10 points, with + or - 1 point for each level difference up to -10 or +10, so 0 to 20 base points possible for each kill. Sorcerous Lore, Necromancy provides a flat modifier, using a seed 1 summation / 2. So at 100 lore ranks, it provides +6 points for each kill, which is 60% bonus against like level kills. Of course, since it's a flat modifier, the percent bonus varies depending on the base amount of points gained (which is determined by the level difference). So if you were overhunting by 10 levels, the lore bonus is only about 30%, or if you're underhunting by 5 levels, the bonus is 120%.

GameMaster Estild

Someone should update the gswiki with this VERY useful information. Hint. Hint.


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VANKRASN39

yes, I plan to, but like you guys I have a day job and it's billing time :P

Oh...that just shattered my personal image of you. I had always thought you were a professional Sorcerer in real life.

GameMaster Estild

>Oh...that just shattered my personal image of you. I had always thought you were a professional Sorcerer in real life.

I've earned a whole cup of chai from my sorcery!

Only one person is really going to appreciate that statement.

Are these conclusion correct?

(1) A Sorcerer with 78 necromancy lore ranks (tier 12) would get 16 points per like-level kill and would need to kill 625 (10,000/16=625) like-level critters to reach the weekly cap.

(2) A Sorcerer with 91 necromancy lore ranks (tier 13) would also need to kill 625 like-level critters to reach the weekly cap.

(3) The reduction in the number of like-level critters required to reach the weekly cap decreases with each additional tier. For example, a Sorcerer at tier 2 would need to kill 90 fewer critters than a Sorcerer at tier 1. But a Sorcerer at tier 12 would need to kill 41 fewer like-level critters than a Sorcerer at tier 11. Tier 2 (just 2 necromancy ranks more than tier 1) gives a much greater benefit than tier 12 (12 more ranks than tier 11).

Thanks for the info Estild and for charting it out Mark. Any chance you could throw that chart up on the wiki under the Ensorcell entry, Mark?

Keith/Brinret/Shiun

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If you're a pure demonologist with no interest in training in necromancy lores, you should nevertheless get those first three ranks of necromancy lore. It's a very big benefit for a small investment.

Estild - thanks for the information. Could you clarify the one other impact of necromancy on 735? According to Coase's original post: "90 ranks of necromancy gives an a second AS/CS boost, and 180 ranks is supposed to give a third."

I've heard from sorcerers who had gotten to 180 ranks that the third attack does not appear. Could you confirm that it does, or perhaps look into why it doesn't?

And slightly changing the subject from lores:
"The strength and frequency of the life channeling flares increase based on the tier of the ensorcellment"
-- Also Coase

I tracked runestaff flare frequency over several thousand casts for each tier and never saw any difference from tier to tier. What's the deal there?

>Could you clarify the one other impact of necromancy on 735? According to Coase's original post: "90 ranks of necromancy gives an a second AS/CS boost, and 180 ranks is supposed to give a third."

Another tidbit. I've heard that this doesn't work for non-sorcerers. Personally, I can't see the reason for that. I have no characters that would be affected in probably, the next decade, but personally would not mind if non-sorcerers can also experience this boost if they put in the training effort. Though, there is the tainted bond CMAN for certain classes, which sorcerers cannot access; if there's a change, I rather feel like this CMAN should also be made available to sorcerers, too.

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And thank you for the speedy reply! :-)