Well, a paladin is pretty much a warrior with spells; because of the spells, they get fewer CMan skills available. Also they don't have a guild with skills like warriors do. I figured I would just pump up the prime stats and fudge the rest. I didn't bother to go for any stat crunchers; you may want to be more obsessive about stats than I am. This character is a half Krolvin; I tanked influence because I figured everyone would hate her anyway :)

>> inf
Name: Gwinnhafyr Race: Half-Krolvin Profession: Paladin (not shown)
Gender: Female Age: 0 Expr: 1374188 Level: 35
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (35) ... 110 (40)
Constitution (CON): 76 (23) ... 76 (23)
Dexterity (DEX): 92 (21) ... 92 (21)
Agility (AGI): 94 (27) ... 94 (27)
Discipline (DIS): 65 (7) ... 65 (7)
Aura (AUR): 58 (4) ... 58 (4)
Logic (LOG): 74 (2) ... 74 (2)
Intuition (INT): 68 (9) ... 68 (9)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (20) ... 110 (25)
Influence (INF): 45 (-7) ... 45 (-7)
Mana: 100 Silver: 91

> skill
Gwinnhafyr (at level 35), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 186 86
Combat Maneuvers...................| 134 37
Polearm Weapons....................| 171 71
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 25 5
Physical Fitness...................| 171 71
Dodging............................| 134 37
Harness Power......................| 120 30
Spirit Mana Control................| 50 10
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 35 7
Climbing...........................| 78 17
Swimming...........................| 50 10

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 3

Spell Lists
Paladin............................| 31
Training Points: 3 Phy 2 Mnt

> cman info
Gwinnhafyr, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Charge charge 4
Specialization I wspec1 1
Surge of Strength surge 1

Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 1

> spell all
Minor Spiritual:
Number Name
101 Spirit Warding I
102 Spirit Barrier
103 Spirit Defense
Paladin Base:
Number Name
1601 Mantle of Faith
1602 Pious Trial
1603 Faith's Clarity
1604 Purify
1605 Arm of the Arkati
1606 Dauntless
1607 Rejuvenation
1608 Guiding Light
1609 Divine Shield
1610 Higher Vision
1611 Patron's Blessing
1612 Champion's Might
1613 Divine Vengeance
1614 Aura of the Arkati
1615 Divine Strike
1616 Vigor
1617 Zealot
1618 Guard the Meek
1619 Faith Shield
1620 Aid the Fallen
1625 Sanctify
1630 Judgment<<

Hmm, I just now noticed this capture while I was cutting and pasting the above ...
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* Guenyiffer joins the adventure.<<


What??? Yet another Guen/Gwen clone appears??? A pox on all of them! I am the only true player of all the Guens! Accept no substitutes!

Not nearly feasible. Its not even feasible if you drop the spells back to 1x total, though its getting towards the ballpark.

I'd stop MOC at 5 ranks and then only add to it when not short of physical points, cut spells to 1x total, and only get SMC and lore as mental points allowed, which would be not very much.

Probably you are not allowing that you get the points for 2 more than your actual levels. 6 ranks at level 1 is 2x not 6x. You can get a very misleading picture of what is possible if you train a level 1 character thinking 2 ranks is 2x training.

Having 4 spells at level 3 is quite possible but thats 4 of your 5 possible 1x spells and 0.8x, not 1.33x. You can have 102 and Paladin at level and its still 1x. If you want 103 and paladin at level then you have to pay the 2x cost for that spell and it gets even more painful.

Excellent feedback. Thanks!

Here's the modification based on what I've read:

Armor Use - 2x
C.M - 1x
Polearms - 2x
M.O.C. - (5 ranks, then occasional as extra allows)
Physical Fit. - 1.5x
Dodging - 1x
Harness Power - 1x
Spiritual Mana Control - 1x
Spiritual Lore - (as extra allows)
(undecided focus)

Minor Spiritual - .2
Paladin - .8x

*Climbing & Swimming (15-20 ranks over time)

If need be, I'll limit spells even more. How's the training plan looking now? Hopefully more feasible! ;) Thanks!

I believe MOC to be the single most useful skill you can get that isn't a spell. Hit 'em with 1614, then mstrike the crowd.

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My paladin uses a sword and shield but I agree that MOC is incredibly useful and fun. I use 1614-->MSTRIKE and 1630-->MSTRIKE interchangably for crowd control. I also get a lot of usage out of 5 ranks in shield bash so if you weren't using a polearm I would recommend going for this CMAN option as well. Maybe someone else can chime in with CMAN suggestions for polearm users.

-- Robert

Thanks once again for all the useful feedback. I think I have narrowed down my plan pretty precisely now.

I know I can't do this forever..... but I'll post my updated Plan here one last time (just in case I am drastically wrong in any particular points!).

After that.... it's rolling time and Elanthia will have one more Paladin walking its enchanted lands. :)

Training Plan:
Armor Use - 2x
C.M - 1x
Polearms - 2x
M.O.C. – 1x
Physical Fit. - 1.25x
Dodging - 1x
Harness Power - 1x
Spiritual Mana Control - .25x
Spiritual Lore - (*when extra)
1) 25 Ranks in Religion
2) 24 Ranks in Summoning
3) 77 Blessing

Spell Goals: - .8x
1) Minor Spiritual, 101–103
2) Paladin, 1601-1635
3) Minor Spiritual, 104-120

*Climbing & Swimming (15-20 ranks over time)
*Change C.M. to 1.5x when older