About 14 years ago I had a pure picking rogue. I got her above what would,be considered cap. Is it possible to play a pure healing empath with no combat at all?
Advice would be appreciated.
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PEREGRINEFALCON
Re: Pure healing empath
05/19/2014 08:00 AM CDT
Not much advice to offer other than that it definitely is doable. You'll need to find a way to get up to your mid-teens so that you can reasonably heal most wounds. I'd recommend keeping a large supply of herbs on hand as well as you won't have sufficient mana/mana regen to keep up at this point (you'll spend a lot of time waiting for mana so you can heal down the next injury and your head will drain out before you've gotten all the wounds down). Make a few empath friends and you can take turns cleaning each other up. There's also a lot of down time involved (similar to locksmithing in that regard).
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SEARSW3
Re: Pure healing empath
05/19/2014 11:17 AM CDT
Thanks Robert.
Think I may give birth this weekend.
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PEREGRINEFALCON
Re: Pure healing empath
05/19/2014 12:04 PM CDT
>> Think I may give birth this weekend.
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SEARSW3
Re: Pure healing empath
05/19/2014 01:39 PM CDT
<<Please, please DO NOT video tape the event and then invite me over to watch it.
This made me laugh. Haha. I make no promises. Have pop corn and 3D glasses at the ready!
Hehe. v.funny
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This made me laugh. Haha. I make no promises. Have pop corn and 3D glasses at the ready!
Hehe. v.funny
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NAIKITA
Re: Pure healing empath
05/19/2014 02:18 PM CDT
<<Keeping her eyes averted from potentially traumatizing birthing sequences>>
It's definitely doable, but much like lockpicking you'll need to time your online time to when you know there will be a steady flow of customers. Likewise, recommend you start in a more populous area to keep your head filled. I would suggest having herbs and tinctures on hand not only for yourself, but for people who walk in with injuries you can't transfer yet. Let them eat the appropriate herbs to get the injury down to a level one and then you can take it from them, and it still saves them the pain and agony of having to eat herbs for high level scars. Unless you feel it's cheating, you could augment the healing xp with gemstone and herbalism bounties (since there's no hunting required), and those are also excellent ways to bring in a little extra silver.
As well I'd suggest taking up a hobby to fill the time between healing. Nia's personal favorite is knitting, it's a fun conversation point and she can craft items for her shop (or for others. She's actually gotten a number of orders from folks she's healed). You could also take up cobbling, though that's harder to make work away from the workshops, but again it's a great conversation starter and you can show off your wares to potential clients as they're being healed.
Good luck, and enjoy! If you have any trouble and want more advice, Nia adopts all young empaths cheerfully over in Icemule.
~Niadja
It's definitely doable, but much like lockpicking you'll need to time your online time to when you know there will be a steady flow of customers. Likewise, recommend you start in a more populous area to keep your head filled. I would suggest having herbs and tinctures on hand not only for yourself, but for people who walk in with injuries you can't transfer yet. Let them eat the appropriate herbs to get the injury down to a level one and then you can take it from them, and it still saves them the pain and agony of having to eat herbs for high level scars. Unless you feel it's cheating, you could augment the healing xp with gemstone and herbalism bounties (since there's no hunting required), and those are also excellent ways to bring in a little extra silver.
As well I'd suggest taking up a hobby to fill the time between healing. Nia's personal favorite is knitting, it's a fun conversation point and she can craft items for her shop (or for others. She's actually gotten a number of orders from folks she's healed). You could also take up cobbling, though that's harder to make work away from the workshops, but again it's a great conversation starter and you can show off your wares to potential clients as they're being healed.
Good luck, and enjoy! If you have any trouble and want more advice, Nia adopts all young empaths cheerfully over in Icemule.
~Niadja
SEARSW3
Re: Pure healing empath
05/19/2014 04:27 PM CDT
Thanks niadja. Useful advice. :)
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JARHEAD
Re: Pure healing empath
05/19/2014 04:55 PM CDT
Also remember that fourteen years ago there were far more people in the game for smiths and empaths to gain experience from. That isn't the case today. However, if you are going to be a pure healer I would imagine your empath offensive spells should be fairly good. You could always underhunt by a few levels to make up for some of that experience loss due to fewer people.
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THROGG
Re: Pure healing empath
05/19/2014 06:46 PM CDT
>> You could always underhunt by a few levels to make up for some of that experience loss due to fewer people.<<
Umm, I am going to presume that the person wanting to be a pure healer is, for RP reasons, NOT going to go out and kill things. Hence, that's not going to be an option for them. Personally, I can't feel that point of view; I play an anti-healer. Ask Guenn for a heal and she'll probably give you some silvers and direct you to the herb shop. There are exceptions; if you're in immediate danger of exsanguination, or badly wounded in a hunting area she is working, or during an invasion assault, she'll make an exception. She views the current Taladorian incursion as a personal affront, since she ends up healing folks a lot during attacks. Consequently, she has been spending a lot of time wandering around the Landing, killing any Taladorians she sees,(whether she can learn from them or not ... usually not).
"So, what does that green line on the graph represent?"
"Oh, that's the projection of a hypothetical offspring from a union between Sauron and Cruella de Ville; we use that as a baseline for determining character alignment."
Umm, I am going to presume that the person wanting to be a pure healer is, for RP reasons, NOT going to go out and kill things. Hence, that's not going to be an option for them. Personally, I can't feel that point of view; I play an anti-healer. Ask Guenn for a heal and she'll probably give you some silvers and direct you to the herb shop. There are exceptions; if you're in immediate danger of exsanguination, or badly wounded in a hunting area she is working, or during an invasion assault, she'll make an exception. She views the current Taladorian incursion as a personal affront, since she ends up healing folks a lot during attacks. Consequently, she has been spending a lot of time wandering around the Landing, killing any Taladorians she sees,(whether she can learn from them or not ... usually not).
"So, what does that green line on the graph represent?"
"Oh, that's the projection of a hypothetical offspring from a union between Sauron and Cruella de Ville; we use that as a baseline for determining character alignment."
SEARSW3
Re: Pure healing empath
05/20/2014 01:35 AM CDT
<<Umm, I am going to presume that the person wanting to be a pure healer is, for RP reasons, NOT going to go out and kill things.
Spot on! I already have a back story in mind. Consequently the training will be geared towards one single focused goal. Healing. Obviously things may change in the future so with good starting stats and access to annual fixskills she may change direction in the future. But for now, she will be a great functional but predominantly RP character. Am actually quite excited about bringing a healer to life.
I have to do a fair amount of research about empaths in general. I know nothing about them. But I think I'll diary her progress for information. Is there a good one stop guide on empaths..or should most of my information come from the 'empaths'' folder here?
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Spot on! I already have a back story in mind. Consequently the training will be geared towards one single focused goal. Healing. Obviously things may change in the future so with good starting stats and access to annual fixskills she may change direction in the future. But for now, she will be a great functional but predominantly RP character. Am actually quite excited about bringing a healer to life.
I have to do a fair amount of research about empaths in general. I know nothing about them. But I think I'll diary her progress for information. Is there a good one stop guide on empaths..or should most of my information come from the 'empaths'' folder here?
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Re: Pure healing empath
05/20/2014 11:49 PM CDT
6<<I have to do a fair amount of research about empaths in general. I know nothing about them. But I think I'll diary her progress for information. Is there a good one stop guide on empaths..or should most of my information come from the 'empaths'' folder here?
It's ok. There's load of info on empaths.... Got all the reading material I need.
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THROGG
Re: Pure healing empath
05/21/2014 01:01 PM CDT
If you are just going to sit in TSC all day and heal, your core skills are pretty basic. You won't need to train in armor, spell aiming, climbing, MIU etc. etc., nor even MjS or MnS spells, since these are mostly to buff up your defenses. Just go for PF, FA, SMC, transformation lore, HP and as many empath circle spell ranks as you can get per level.
Booooring ....
"So, what does that green line on the graph represent?"
"Oh, that's the projection of a hypothetical offspring from a union between Sauron and Cruella de Ville; we use that as a baseline for determining character alignment."
Booooring ....
"So, what does that green line on the graph represent?"
"Oh, that's the projection of a hypothetical offspring from a union between Sauron and Cruella de Ville; we use that as a baseline for determining character alignment."
COYOTERRE
Re: Pure healing empath
05/21/2014 07:51 PM CDT
I have a pure pacifist empath, who is into his 30's without ever hunting. It was a character I liked to play during invasions where my main was either not around or not interested. Also, back in the day, I had a lot of friends who would know to come to him for healing. Mind you, I play him as an absolute simpleton man-child, which ... is sometimes fun and sometimes a little difficult for me. (Being an idiot and playing an idiot, two different things for me, don'tcha know.)
I was actually reading here looking for suggestions to train him moving forward, because I'd like him to be able to do rescues (225/130), but I am mechanically not a very sound empath at all, particularly after being gone for six years. I'd really like his healing to be good, of course, with as little RT as possible, but I'd also like him to have a very good defense, since he doesn't hunt, and he does eventually want to go be more useful.
Anyway, there's no point to this. I'll keep reading. Just if there was any doubt that it's possible... well, of course it is... but I never liked to camp out in the center of a busy town and grind out the healing. I was much more patient with this character, and I had a lot more friends back then, and just enjoyed the RP and playing the character, and the levels simply arrived.
Blah blah blah.
~ Bill, Coyote.
I was actually reading here looking for suggestions to train him moving forward, because I'd like him to be able to do rescues (225/130), but I am mechanically not a very sound empath at all, particularly after being gone for six years. I'd really like his healing to be good, of course, with as little RT as possible, but I'd also like him to have a very good defense, since he doesn't hunt, and he does eventually want to go be more useful.
Anyway, there's no point to this. I'll keep reading. Just if there was any doubt that it's possible... well, of course it is... but I never liked to camp out in the center of a busy town and grind out the healing. I was much more patient with this character, and I had a lot more friends back then, and just enjoyed the RP and playing the character, and the levels simply arrived.
Blah blah blah.
~ Bill, Coyote.
THROGG
Re: Pure healing empath
05/21/2014 08:27 PM CDT
>>I was actually reading here looking for suggestions to train him moving forward, because I'd like him to be able to do rescues (225/130)<<
A field support healer and rescuer; ok, rather different, since you will need to pump up your defences. Clearly you will want to go for both spiritual circles, since those will give you much greater physical DS. 102 is your friend; it starts at +20 DS, and grows from there. You may even want to neglect empath circle for a bit, since you aren't going hunting. On a rescue, for a pacifist it might be better to be able to use web, bind or calm to deter threatening critters since you won't be using boneshatter on them. (Minor sanctuary is a good rescue tool, but there are areas where it drops rather fast; you will need alternatives there.) As for suggestions, what does he look like now? (level, skills, stats).
"So, what does that green line on the graph represent?"
"Oh, that's the projection of a hypothetical offspring from a union between Sauron and Cruella de Ville; we use that as a baseline for determining character alignment."
A field support healer and rescuer; ok, rather different, since you will need to pump up your defences. Clearly you will want to go for both spiritual circles, since those will give you much greater physical DS. 102 is your friend; it starts at +20 DS, and grows from there. You may even want to neglect empath circle for a bit, since you aren't going hunting. On a rescue, for a pacifist it might be better to be able to use web, bind or calm to deter threatening critters since you won't be using boneshatter on them. (Minor sanctuary is a good rescue tool, but there are areas where it drops rather fast; you will need alternatives there.) As for suggestions, what does he look like now? (level, skills, stats).
"So, what does that green line on the graph represent?"
"Oh, that's the projection of a hypothetical offspring from a union between Sauron and Cruella de Ville; we use that as a baseline for determining character alignment."
COYOTERRE
Re: Pure healing empath
05/21/2014 08:37 PM CDT
>As for suggestions, what does he look like now? (level, skills, stats).
This may have been a reasonable training plan six years ago, I don't know. I know I was gunning for the 225/130 combination, and had the climb/swim ranks so that I could take him into difficult areas (like Pinefar) where he could be useful to my friends when they were hunting. The trading ranks.. are very useful, because he only occasionally gets tips, and without hunting, he needed a way to have some coins for .. stuff.
Anyway, here he is.
(at level 32), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 40 8
Physical Fitness...................| 165 65
Arcane Symbols.....................| 74 16
Magic Item Use.....................| 74 16
Harness Power......................| 126 33
Mental Mana Control................| 74 16
Spirit Mana Control................| 74 16
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 74 16
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 126 33
Survival...........................| 74 16
Perception.........................| 74 16
Climbing...........................| 126 33
Swimming...........................| 126 33
First Aid..........................| 166 66
Trading............................| 166 66
Major Spiritual....................| 25
Minor Spiritual....................| 28
Empath.............................| 20
~ Bill, Coyote.
This may have been a reasonable training plan six years ago, I don't know. I know I was gunning for the 225/130 combination, and had the climb/swim ranks so that I could take him into difficult areas (like Pinefar) where he could be useful to my friends when they were hunting. The trading ranks.. are very useful, because he only occasionally gets tips, and without hunting, he needed a way to have some coins for .. stuff.
Anyway, here he is.
(at level 32), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 40 8
Physical Fitness...................| 165 65
Arcane Symbols.....................| 74 16
Magic Item Use.....................| 74 16
Harness Power......................| 126 33
Mental Mana Control................| 74 16
Spirit Mana Control................| 74 16
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 74 16
Mental Lore - Transformation.......| 126 33
Survival...........................| 74 16
Perception.........................| 74 16
Climbing...........................| 126 33
Swimming...........................| 126 33
First Aid..........................| 166 66
Trading............................| 166 66
Major Spiritual....................| 25
Minor Spiritual....................| 28
Empath.............................| 20
~ Bill, Coyote.
THROGG
Re: Pure healing empath
05/21/2014 09:49 PM CDT
Looks pretty good, actually. I see you have already gotten 225/130; you can start pumping up empath spells again now, to get 1125 and 1130. You should be easily able to go on rescues in most of the accessible Landing areas (unless you fog into a bunch of high level Taladorians; always look before you leap nowadays). Stay away from Stone valley and the minotaur area. Or you can patrol Icemule and environs, if that's your location. Pinefar is a bit out of your reach for now, I'd think, considering the critters in the area. Of course, if you are with friends as a group they can take the heat while you just stay in defensive and heal. Grab some wizard spells and maybe ranger mobility and resist elements.
I am seriously not a big fan of trading skill, although some folks swear by it. Personally, I'd rather put those TPs towards more spells. If you are with a group and providing support to them, then you should get a part of any profits. Also, are you opposed to skinning critters if someone else kills them first? Combination of FA and survival skills should make you a decent skinner, which would solve part of your financial woes. After all, YOU didn't kill them, and why let good pelts go to waste? The critters won't miss their skins; they're dead!
"So, what does that green line on the graph represent?"
"Oh, that's the projection of a hypothetical offspring from a union between Sauron and Cruella de Ville; we use that as a baseline for determining character alignment."
I am seriously not a big fan of trading skill, although some folks swear by it. Personally, I'd rather put those TPs towards more spells. If you are with a group and providing support to them, then you should get a part of any profits. Also, are you opposed to skinning critters if someone else kills them first? Combination of FA and survival skills should make you a decent skinner, which would solve part of your financial woes. After all, YOU didn't kill them, and why let good pelts go to waste? The critters won't miss their skins; they're dead!
"So, what does that green line on the graph represent?"
"Oh, that's the projection of a hypothetical offspring from a union between Sauron and Cruella de Ville; we use that as a baseline for determining character alignment."
JARHEAD
Re: Pure healing empath
05/23/2014 09:12 AM CDT
Your training looks good for a rescuer. I'd bump minor spirit to 140 by train 40 just for wall of force, the perfect defensive spell for those pesky over level critters. Plus those extra trainings will help your 102. I'd also consider more MIU and Arcane Symbols. Cheap and they give you the benefits or scroll usage and imbeddables, plus they'll help your runestaff defense. Of course mana will be an issue if you go the 140 route.
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RISHIB1
Re: Pure healing empath
06/04/2014 03:57 PM CDT
You'll want to get 1130 also. That provides a lot of DS to empaths.
If you 1x your magic skills, then your runestaff DS will be pretty good also.
Rishi
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If you 1x your magic skills, then your runestaff DS will be pretty good also.
Rishi
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