Greetings,
I am back from a long break. I believe I left around 2001. I logged back into the game in 2006 for a month and might have tweaked stats some. Here is all the info I have, please tell me what you think. Is this rogue playable?
Name: Kayress ellenrok Race: Dark Elf Profession: Rogue (shown as: Rogue)
Gender: Female Age: 68 Expr: 1532613 Level: 37
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 85 (17) ... 85 (17)
Constitution (CON): 80 (10) ... 80 (10)
Dexterity (DEX): 90 (30) ... 90 (30)
Agility (AGI): 77 (18) ... 77 (18)
Discipline (DIS): 86 (8) ... 86 (8)
Aura (AUR): 82 (26) ... 82 (26)
Logic (LOG): 80 (15) ... 80 (15)
Intuition (INT): 76 (18) ... 76 (18)
Wisdom (WIS): 74 (17) ... 74 (17)
Influence (INF): 64 (2) ... 64 (2)
Mana: 12 Silver: 137
Level 0 Stats for Kayress, Dark Elf Rogue
Strength (STR): 72
Constitution (CON): 70
Dexterity (DEX): 72
Agility (AGI): 47
Discipline (DIS): 77
Aura (AUR): 75
Logic (LOG): 68
Intuition (INT): 58
Wisdom (WIS): 68
Influence (INF): 53
Name: Kayress ellenrok
Race: Dark Elf Profession: Rogue
Cultural History: None
Gender: female Age: 68
Level: 37 Experience: 1532613
Maximum Mana Points: 12 Health Points: 130
Your Personal Fame: 3532687 points
Hair Color: jet black
Hair Style: very long
Hair Texture: glossy
Hair Quirks:
Eye Characteristics: gold-flecked
Eye Color: violet
Complexion: pale
Height: taller than average
Facial Characteristics:
Nose Characteristics: straight
Distinguishing Marks: generous mouth
Statistic Bonus
Constitution (CON) : 80 ... 10
Dexterity (DEX) : 90 ... 30
Discipline (DIS) : 86 ... 8
Logic (LOG) : 80 ... 15
Intuition (INT) : 76 ... 18
Strength (STR) : 85 ... 17
Agility (AGL) : 77 ... 18
Influence (INF) : 64 ... 2
Wisdom (WIS) : 74 ... 17
Aura (AUR) : 82 ... 26
Bonus Skill Name (Training pts left: 0 phy 73 mnt)
111 Armor Use
136 Shield Use
178 Combat Maneuvers
178 Blunt Weapons
178 Ambush
140 Physical Fitness
178 Dodging
5 Harness Power
174 Disarming Traps
174 Picking Locks
174 Stalking and Hiding
174 Perception
96 Climbing
96 Swimming
Ranks P/M (Max) Skill Name Ranks P/M (Max) Skill Name
Armor Skills Magic Skills
1) 27 5/0 (78) Armor Use 26) 0 0/7 (39) Arcane Symbols
2) 38 4/0 (78) Shield Use 27) 0 0/8 (39) Magic Item Use
Weapon Skills 28) 1 0/9 (39) Harness Power
3) 0 2/1 (78) Edged Weapons 29) 0 4/22 (39) Spell Aiming
4) 78 12/4 (78) Blunt Weapons 30) 0 0/10 (39) Mana Control: Elemental
5) 0 6/2 (78) Two-Handed Weapons 31) 0 0/10 (39) Mana Control: Spiritual
6) 0 3/1 (78) Ranged Weapons 32) 0 0/15 (39) Mana Control: Mental
7) 0 2/1 (78) Thrown Weapons Spell Research (39)
8) 0 7/2 (78) Pole Arm Weapons 33) 0 0/67 Minor Elemental
9) 0 3/1 (78) Brawling 34) 0 0/67 Minor Spiritual
Combat Skills
10) 0 2/2 (78) Two Weapon Combat Elemental Lore (39)
11) 78 16/16 (78) Combat Maneuvers 36) 0 0/15 Air
12) 0 10/3 (39) Multi-Opponent Combat 37) 0 0/15 Earth
13) 78 8/4 (78) Ambush 38) 0 0/15 Fire
14) 40 6/0 (78) Physical Training 39) 0 0/15 Water
15) 78 8/4 (117) Dodging Spiritual Lore (39)
40) 0 0/15 Blessings
General Skills 41) 0 0/15 Religion
16) 22 1/0 (78) Climbing 42) 0 0/15 Summoning
17) 22 2/0 (78) Swimming Sorcerous Lore (39)
18) 74 2/2 (117) Disarming Traps 43) 0 0/30 Demonology
19) 74 2/2 (117) Picking Locks 44) 0 0/30 Necromancy
20) 74 2/2 (117) Stalking & Hiding Mental Lore (39)
21) 74 0/2 (117) Perception 45) 0 0/40 Divination
22) 0 1/2 (78) First Aid 46) 0 0/40 Manipulation
23) 0 0/3 (78) Trading 47) 0 0/40 Telepathy
24) 0 1/0 (78) Picking Pockets 48) 0 0/40 Transference
25) 0 2/2 (78) Survival 49) 0 0/40 Transformation
Remaining Training Points: 0 Phy 73 Mnt
Mnt converted to Phy: 278
KAYRESS
RATHBONER
Re: Back From a Long Break
09/09/2014 01:46 PM CDT
should be quite playable.
Check what Cmans you have. There are new armor and shield skills you can buy with your training in those skills as well as new CMans that you may well want instead of your existing ones.
CMAN INFO
ARMOR
SHIELD
Check what Cmans you have. There are new armor and shield skills you can buy with your training in those skills as well as new CMans that you may well want instead of your existing ones.
CMAN INFO
ARMOR
SHIELD
THROGG
Re: Back From a Long Break
09/10/2014 05:25 AM CDT
You might also want to check out the new Unarmed Combat System (referred to as UAC) and substitute brawling for OHB. Quite deadly with proper training. The only caveat is that you will have to use a UAC compatible weapon rather than hand and foot wraps (or UAC gloves and boots) on the occasional creature that can't be touched with hands or feet; stone sentinels come to mind. This, alas, reduces the effectiveness of the attack. You can, of course, also use brawling weapons for the traditional ambush attack as well. I like sticking a sai in something's neck, myself. (Note: sais apparently are not UAC compatible; not all brawling weapons are).
Here's a clip of my level 51 rogue vs a stone troll using the UAC. I actually killed it while lying down (don't try this at home, folks). I'm actually not sure how I can leap from hiding when prone; I suspect it has to do with the fact that they are so tall, you have to whack their legs (or feet) first to get the head within striking range. Smashing it's foot to pieces from that position seems feasible in that case. As for Cmans, if you train in S&H, get vanish ... seriously.
>>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>
A stone troll sinks both fists into the ground!
HR>
The ground begins to shake violently, making it hard to stand.
You lose your balance and fall over.
PH>stance offen
> punch troll left leg
You are now in an offensive stance.
PH>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a stone troll!
Your attack is hindered by holding a glistening sea-blue buckler!
You have good positioning against a stone troll.
UAF: 342 vs UDF: 217 = 1.576 * MM: 83 + d100: 36 = 166
... and hit for 35 points of damage!
Strong strike leaves a bloody gash on the stone troll's left calf.
The stone troll is knocked to the ground!
The stone troll is stunned!
Strike leaves foe vulnerable to a followup grapple attack!
Roundtime: 4 sec.
PR>
A swirling wind blows through the area!
PR>
A stone troll's flesh wounds regenerate slowly.
A stone troll's left leg regenerates and looks much better.
A stone troll flails his arms about angrily, shaking off the stun!
A stone troll lurches to his feet!
PR>stand
You stand back up.
>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>stance offen
> punch troll left leg
You are now in an offensive stance.
H>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a stone troll!
Your attack is hindered by holding a glistening sea-blue buckler!
You have excellent positioning against a stone troll.
UAF: 342 vs UDF: 216 = 1.583 * MM: 80 + d100: 30 = 156
... and hit for 46 points of damage!
Furious fast fist forces fibula fracture! Foot flies free, falling forward five feet forth!
A stone troll falls to the ground grasping his mangled left leg!
The stone troll is stunned!
Roundtime: 4 sec.
R>
The ground begins to shake violently, making it hard to stand.
You lose your balance and fall over.
PR>
A stone troll's flesh wounds regenerate some.
A stone troll's left leg begins to regenerate.
A stone troll flails his arms about angrily, shaking off the stun!
PR>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
PHR>stance offen
> punch troll head
You are now in an offensive stance.
PH>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a stone troll!
Your attack is hindered by holding a glistening sea-blue buckler!
You have excellent positioning against a stone troll.
UAF: 342 vs UDF: 211 = 1.620 * MM: 87 + d100: 77 = 218
... and hit for 55 points of damage!
Palm strike to face drives nose straight into brain!
The stone troll shudders violently for a moment, then goes still.
A stone troll seems a bit less imposing.
Roundtime: 4 sec.
PR>
The ground begins to shake violently, making it hard to stand.
P>loot
You search the stone troll.
He had a reinforced shield, a war hammer.
He didn't carry any silver.
He had nothing of interest.
A stone troll sinks into the ground, leaving nothing behind.
P>stand
You stand back up.
Roundtime: 6 sec.<<
"So, what does that green line on the graph represent?"
"Oh, that's the projection of a hypothetical offspring from a union between Sauron and Cruella de Ville; we use that as a baseline for determining character alignment."
Here's a clip of my level 51 rogue vs a stone troll using the UAC. I actually killed it while lying down (don't try this at home, folks). I'm actually not sure how I can leap from hiding when prone; I suspect it has to do with the fact that they are so tall, you have to whack their legs (or feet) first to get the head within striking range. Smashing it's foot to pieces from that position seems feasible in that case. As for Cmans, if you train in S&H, get vanish ... seriously.
>>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>
A stone troll sinks both fists into the ground!
HR>
The ground begins to shake violently, making it hard to stand.
You lose your balance and fall over.
PH>stance offen
> punch troll left leg
You are now in an offensive stance.
PH>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a stone troll!
Your attack is hindered by holding a glistening sea-blue buckler!
You have good positioning against a stone troll.
UAF: 342 vs UDF: 217 = 1.576 * MM: 83 + d100: 36 = 166
... and hit for 35 points of damage!
Strong strike leaves a bloody gash on the stone troll's left calf.
The stone troll is knocked to the ground!
The stone troll is stunned!
Strike leaves foe vulnerable to a followup grapple attack!
Roundtime: 4 sec.
PR>
A swirling wind blows through the area!
PR>
A stone troll's flesh wounds regenerate slowly.
A stone troll's left leg regenerates and looks much better.
A stone troll flails his arms about angrily, shaking off the stun!
A stone troll lurches to his feet!
PR>stand
You stand back up.
>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>stance offen
> punch troll left leg
You are now in an offensive stance.
H>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a stone troll!
Your attack is hindered by holding a glistening sea-blue buckler!
You have excellent positioning against a stone troll.
UAF: 342 vs UDF: 216 = 1.583 * MM: 80 + d100: 30 = 156
... and hit for 46 points of damage!
Furious fast fist forces fibula fracture! Foot flies free, falling forward five feet forth!
A stone troll falls to the ground grasping his mangled left leg!
The stone troll is stunned!
Roundtime: 4 sec.
R>
The ground begins to shake violently, making it hard to stand.
You lose your balance and fall over.
PR>
A stone troll's flesh wounds regenerate some.
A stone troll's left leg begins to regenerate.
A stone troll flails his arms about angrily, shaking off the stun!
PR>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
PHR>stance offen
> punch troll head
You are now in an offensive stance.
PH>
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a stone troll!
Your attack is hindered by holding a glistening sea-blue buckler!
You have excellent positioning against a stone troll.
UAF: 342 vs UDF: 211 = 1.620 * MM: 87 + d100: 77 = 218
... and hit for 55 points of damage!
Palm strike to face drives nose straight into brain!
The stone troll shudders violently for a moment, then goes still.
A stone troll seems a bit less imposing.
Roundtime: 4 sec.
PR>
The ground begins to shake violently, making it hard to stand.
P>loot
You search the stone troll.
He had a reinforced shield, a war hammer.
He didn't carry any silver.
He had nothing of interest.
A stone troll sinks into the ground, leaving nothing behind.
P>stand
You stand back up.
Roundtime: 6 sec.<<
"So, what does that green line on the graph represent?"
"Oh, that's the projection of a hypothetical offspring from a union between Sauron and Cruella de Ville; we use that as a baseline for determining character alignment."
THROGG
Re: Back From a Long Break
09/10/2014 05:41 AM CDT
Oh, and Rathboner mentioned new CMan, armor and shield skills also. Here is a sampling; not saying this is an ideal selection, but will give you an idea what sort of thing is available. Check them out using the shield (or armor or CMan) profession list command in game. Note that rogues have a different CMan, shield and armor skiil selection list than do warriors and paladins.
>cman info
Guennwhfar, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:
Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Shadow Mastery smastery 5
Surge of Strength surge 1
Divert divert 3
Vanish vanish 3
Punch Mastery punchmastery 1
Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 5
>shield info
Guennwhfar, your Shield Specialization training is as follows:
Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Small Shield Focus sfocus 3
Shielded Brawler brawler 2
Deflection Training dtraining 1
Deflect the Elements deflect 3
>armor info
Guennwhfar, your Armor Specialization training is as follows:
Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Armored Evasion evasion 2
>cman info
Guennwhfar, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:
Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Shadow Mastery smastery 5
Surge of Strength surge 1
Divert divert 3
Vanish vanish 3
Punch Mastery punchmastery 1
Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 5
>shield info
Guennwhfar, your Shield Specialization training is as follows:
Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Small Shield Focus sfocus 3
Shielded Brawler brawler 2
Deflection Training dtraining 1
Deflect the Elements deflect 3
>armor info
Guennwhfar, your Armor Specialization training is as follows:
Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Armored Evasion evasion 2
RATHBONER
Re: Back From a Long Break
09/10/2014 07:43 AM CDT
The abdomen is almost as good a target for the killing punch as the head. If the critter is too tall to punch its head without a knockdown, but the abdomen is in range, punching its stomach out the back of its abdomen is a good alternative to teeth out the back of its head. Stone critters have tough enough skin that the difference between head and abdomen is significant, but for those with not quite so much armor:
hide
punch
hide
punch head if downed, or abdomen if standing
Not only do you get a second faster with the opening unaimed punch, you get a rather higher fraction of kills on the first attack.
hide
punch
hide
punch head if downed, or abdomen if standing
Not only do you get a second faster with the opening unaimed punch, you get a rather higher fraction of kills on the first attack.
THROGG
Re: Back From a Long Break
09/10/2014 10:36 PM CDT
Interesting; I would not have thought of the abdomen as a target for an aimed kill shot. Seems to work, though. I don't like the idea of an unaimed first attack, however. Two hits on the same area are probably needed for a kill with these things, and while stone critters throw off a stun very quickly, it lasts long enough for me to hide again, so the extra 1 second RT doesn't seem to be a real consideration ... unless there is a second critter in the room. In that case, however, I can either use vanish after attacking, or try divert beforehand to get rid of the second opponent. Even if I miss getting a stun entirely, a well timed vanish would still save me from a counterattack.
One caveat with vanish: it's stamina intensive, so keep track of that lest you get muscle strain. (From experience, I know I can pull it off three times in a row, then have to rest for a bit.)
>>H>pun troll abd
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a stone troll!
You have good positioning against a stone troll.
UAF: 344 vs UDF: 212 = 1.622 * MM: 98 + d100: 68 = 227
... and hit for 57 points of damage!
Punishing strike to the stomach!
The stone troll is stunned!
Roundtime: 4 sec.
R>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>pun troll abd
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a stone troll!
You have excellent positioning against a stone troll.
UAF: 344 vs UDF: 212 = 1.622 * MM: 106 + d100: 23 = 195
... and hit for 66 points of damage!
Overhand descending smash punches stomach and intestines out of the stone troll's body!
The stone troll topples to the ground motionless.
A stone troll seems a bit less imposing.
Roundtime: 4 sec.<<
One caveat with vanish: it's stamina intensive, so keep track of that lest you get muscle strain. (From experience, I know I can pull it off three times in a row, then have to rest for a bit.)
>>H>pun troll abd
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a stone troll!
You have good positioning against a stone troll.
UAF: 344 vs UDF: 212 = 1.622 * MM: 98 + d100: 68 = 227
... and hit for 57 points of damage!
Punishing strike to the stomach!
The stone troll is stunned!
Roundtime: 4 sec.
R>hide
Roundtime: 3 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings, and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
HR>pun troll abd
You leap from hiding to strike!
You make a precise attempt to punch a stone troll!
You have excellent positioning against a stone troll.
UAF: 344 vs UDF: 212 = 1.622 * MM: 106 + d100: 23 = 195
... and hit for 66 points of damage!
Overhand descending smash punches stomach and intestines out of the stone troll's body!
The stone troll topples to the ground motionless.
A stone troll seems a bit less imposing.
Roundtime: 4 sec.<<
RATHBONER
Re: Back From a Long Break
09/11/2014 05:51 AM CDT
If a critter has an 8s action timer, my normal lag allows me to fit 5s worth of hard RT actions within that with comfort, 6s with spamming gets me hurt occasionally and trying for 7s will get me hurt every time. 1s less of RT can be a big deal to me when the critter action timer gets to 6 or 8s. (and vanish is mandatory once it gets to 4, except the 4s n'ecares are a bit too perceptive and its almost always painful taking them on)
While sometimes you need two hits to the same area (unlike other attack types non fatal rank 3 UAC wounds can stack to death crits), the kill shot in that clip of yours is a kill whatever previous damage the troll had taken. You just need to get to excellent position to be able to deliver it and can do that with the previous ambush being random or targetted elsewhere.
While sometimes you need two hits to the same area (unlike other attack types non fatal rank 3 UAC wounds can stack to death crits), the kill shot in that clip of yours is a kill whatever previous damage the troll had taken. You just need to get to excellent position to be able to deliver it and can do that with the previous ambush being random or targetted elsewhere.
