You might want to look to have it moved up a couple spell levels to 620 while you are at it... I suspect it being a level 20 (or above) spell was a key factor in the decision to make the change for 520 more than anything. In it's prior incarnation it was pretty much an irrelevant point, the old 520 was pretty useless.

-- Robert

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We definitely have some disagreement over the value of 620 but you probably wear heavier armor (my ranger and many of my other characters wear brig or lighter).

I think there were some good suggestions made in a different thread about improving 620 though.

Regarding 520: I'm pretty ambivalent about 520 being available to others - the point I was making about being level 20 is that it seems that, in general, level 19 is the cutoff for spells being made available via scrolls, 1750, imbedding, etc. and 520 being available as an imbed feels like more the exception than the rule (based on spell level, not on spell functionality).

Sure there are exceptions to every rule.

-- Robert

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Good grief, every time wizards get something all they do is find something about it to whine about, no matter how small it might be. Now it's even spilling over into the other profession's folders.

You want someone else's level 20 spell imbedded for you? Here, have this rod full of 720, I made the activator RAISE just for you. Kind of unfair that the sorcerer's level 20 professional spell can be imbedded with 420 but the wizard's can't... but here, have as many as you can carry.

I keep seeing that "every wizard spell" is available to everyone... yet they have 7 spells at level 20 or below excluded from 420 as opposed to 3 spells sorcerer's know that are excluded. Not to mention wizards are only profession that has two spell circles of which only they have native knowledge.

Starchitin

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I personally do not mind sharing 618. I regularily exchange spells for spells and its nicehaving a sought after spellto give out. I have more issues with defense scrolls and imbeds as they give me last a chance to share.

I have to agree i overall love our spell list and think there only need to be tweaks. 620 really needs to include chain and revamp the speed on getting potions. I wouldnt mind seeing more benefits from lores in 650 with the currebt spell bei g the base. I do think we have a good number of shareable spells that allow us to barter our spells for an equivalent need from others. I have not seen an issue with people self casting off imbeds or scroll that makes me think i lost the ability to use my spells s barter