So according to the wiki https://gswiki.play.net/Forging#Success_Determination_Calculation there are two rolls when making a piece/vice. The first roll determines whether the piece/vice creation was a success and the second roll determines if it was a "best" or perfect piece. According to the wiki that appears to have been updated by GM Mikos, Gift of Eonak ONLY works on the first roll. Therefore not really giving any benefit to the chance of making a best/perfect piece. Can this be updated so that it affects the 2nd roll? Pretty much ALL forgers are near max/capped with their artisan skills before trying to make pieces/vice. So having the gift on that part I feel is a waste, as our chances for that are already incredibly high. Even if we do fail at that part, it's not a big deal to try again. But to have a max 10% for vicing and no way to increase that via Gift of Eonak seems like it wasn't coded to take that into affect.

>>While we don not have any NIR confirmation on this, my personal experience has been that Gift of Eonake DOES make a difference to Vise success (either that or my dwarven warrior is AMAZING at the VISE). I typically see something around 25%-33% success rates when using the VISE under Gift of Eonake. My prior experience, without using this gift, was no where close to this.

Clunks experience is similar to this, better success under the gift.
But, I think it may be metal dependent. Steel is 20-30% under the gift.
For vultite, so far he is at or under the %10.





Clunk

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-- Robert

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Guys,

Thanks for posting.

Before I provided the update to the wiki, I examined the scripts on the grinder, forge, and vise. And before posting this reply I have examined them again.

It turns out that the Vise DOES provide a second Gift of Eonak roll within the Extraordinary Success determination routine, unlike the grinder and forge.

I have updated the wiki description to reflect this.

Thanks again for speaking up.

- Mikos

Thanks Mikos! My perfect lance is feeling closer than ever now, with that knowledge. (Though, honestly, I would have kept using the Gift just in case either way. ;) )

Thank you for reviewing and confirming this!

-- Robert

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