>>The "standard maneuver roll" formula is not known (at least not far as I can tell from searching), nor is the relationship between hidden endrolls and visible results, so it seems to me that even a very simple and transparent statement like "the bonus is +12" is not something that players are able to process.
Agreed, with two provisos:
1) We've been fortunate that in the last months' timeframe, the GMs have shown a willingness to share far more information about these things than in the past, and;
2) We know explicitly (because this great information sharing is occurring) that the changes to 410 / 435 at 20 ranks of lore 'are sufficient to offset the maneuver bonus supplied by' 1109. Slight paraphrasing, but I think that's pretty accurate.
So while we may not be fortunate enough to get a complete amplification on the SMR, I remain hopeful that we can rather specifically correlate the 20 ranks commentary to a rather precise bonus for this spell - and perhaps we will be able happily to infer other things which will further research into the black box that is SMR.
This just seemed a good place to start.
Doug
