I've been meaning to post this for some time, and I keep forgetting.
It's my wishlist, and may not really even be complete.
1. A way to slow/speed up the instrument messaging. Because Tempo. Control. Timing verses with instrument messaging is not always optimal the way it happens now.
2. Duet and ensemble support for both singers and instrumentation. Get enough singers, you're a choir! (Go steal the DragonRealms code for chorus singing...but we can do it so much better!) Imagine someone holding the beat on a percussion instrument or getting a lead break on an instrument when there are no vocals. Imagine backup singers going oooo, and aaaaaah sometimes.
3. Humming alternatives for ... improvisation opportunities
4. Portable stages that can be interacted with
5. Mechanics for an aside
6. Sotto voce speech verbiage
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LUXELLE
RATHBONER
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/05/2017 06:39 AM CDT
Drums.
All the rest and more too, but how can there not be drums?
All the rest and more too, but how can there not be drums?
NAAMIT
LUXELLE
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/06/2017 10:22 AM CDT
And ... something for not-singing performances, besides recite, please?
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Rohese: "... the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)"
GSLOVER
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/30/2017 08:47 AM CDT
+100 for drums.
It's sad when I made drums an integral sort of part of my new Bard character and, lo and behold, no drums - only tambourines. I'm not sure why I assumed there were drums when I thought of her history .. but .. I guess I was thinking of something else. (Does DR have drums? Maybe I thought of my brief foray into DR.)
I also liked Dragonrealms' vocal range thing for Bards. (IE you can be soprano, mezzo soprano, alto, etc. and it shows when you sing.) Would like to see that in GS.
Volume modifiers for the SING verb - I'd really like my Bard to be able to belt something out vs. sing quietly.
It's sad when I made drums an integral sort of part of my new Bard character and, lo and behold, no drums - only tambourines. I'm not sure why I assumed there were drums when I thought of her history .. but .. I guess I was thinking of something else. (Does DR have drums? Maybe I thought of my brief foray into DR.)
I also liked Dragonrealms' vocal range thing for Bards. (IE you can be soprano, mezzo soprano, alto, etc. and it shows when you sing.) Would like to see that in GS.
Volume modifiers for the SING verb - I'd really like my Bard to be able to belt something out vs. sing quietly.
NAAMIT
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/30/2017 09:56 AM CDT
Hi, the tones and ranges for SING can be accessed under SONG LIST. This is a horrible copy because formatting---
>song list
> POSSIBLE TONES FOR USE WHEN SINGING
1. none 2. abrupt 3. airy 4. alto
5. amused 6. angry 7. annoying 8. appealing
9. bad 10. baritone 11. bass 12. blatty
13. boisterous 14. breathy 15. bright 16. cacophonous
17. calm 18. chanting 19. cheerful 20. clear
21. confident 22. crooning 23. dark 24. deafening
25. deep 26. depressing 27. discordant 28. dolorous
29. earnest 30. edgy 31. eery 32. ethereal
33. flat 34. flowing 35. funereal 36. flirtatious
37. gleeful 38. grave 39. grim 40. grumpy
41. happy 42. harsh 43. haunting 44. hesitant
45. hurried 46. husky 47. jaunty 48. jolly
49. jubilant 50. lethargic 51. lilting 52. loud
53. measured 54. melodic 55. merry 56. methodic
57. moaning 58. mocking 59. monotonous 60. mournful
61. nervous 62. off-key 63. operatic 64. pedantic
65. piercing 66. playful 67. pleading 68. plodding
69. pompous 70. ponderous 71. powerful 72. proud
73. quiet 74. raucous 75. resonant 76. resounding
77. rhythmic 78. rollicking 79. romantic 80. sad
81. seductive 82. sharp 83. shrieking 84. shrill
85. slow 86. smooth 87. snide 88. soft
89. somber 90. sonorous 91. soprano 92. soulful
93. sour 94. squeaky 95. staccato 96. stern
97. stuttering 98. sweet 99. teasing 100. tender
101. tenor 102. terse 103. thunderous 104. tinkling
105. tinny 106. trembling 107. trilling 108. tuneful
109. tuneless 110. twittering 111. vibrant 112. vibrato
113. wailing 114. warbling 115. warm 116. weak
117. whimsical 118. whining 119. wistful 120. wry
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P.S. Now that I know those are there, Naamit will forever sing discordantly, off-key, or wailingly. Yippie.
>song list
> POSSIBLE TONES FOR USE WHEN SINGING
1. none 2. abrupt 3. airy 4. alto
5. amused 6. angry 7. annoying 8. appealing
9. bad 10. baritone 11. bass 12. blatty
13. boisterous 14. breathy 15. bright 16. cacophonous
17. calm 18. chanting 19. cheerful 20. clear
21. confident 22. crooning 23. dark 24. deafening
25. deep 26. depressing 27. discordant 28. dolorous
29. earnest 30. edgy 31. eery 32. ethereal
33. flat 34. flowing 35. funereal 36. flirtatious
37. gleeful 38. grave 39. grim 40. grumpy
41. happy 42. harsh 43. haunting 44. hesitant
45. hurried 46. husky 47. jaunty 48. jolly
49. jubilant 50. lethargic 51. lilting 52. loud
53. measured 54. melodic 55. merry 56. methodic
57. moaning 58. mocking 59. monotonous 60. mournful
61. nervous 62. off-key 63. operatic 64. pedantic
65. piercing 66. playful 67. pleading 68. plodding
69. pompous 70. ponderous 71. powerful 72. proud
73. quiet 74. raucous 75. resonant 76. resounding
77. rhythmic 78. rollicking 79. romantic 80. sad
81. seductive 82. sharp 83. shrieking 84. shrill
85. slow 86. smooth 87. snide 88. soft
89. somber 90. sonorous 91. soprano 92. soulful
93. sour 94. squeaky 95. staccato 96. stern
97. stuttering 98. sweet 99. teasing 100. tender
101. tenor 102. terse 103. thunderous 104. tinkling
105. tinny 106. trembling 107. trilling 108. tuneful
109. tuneless 110. twittering 111. vibrant 112. vibrato
113. wailing 114. warbling 115. warm 116. weak
117. whimsical 118. whining 119. wistful 120. wry
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P.S. Now that I know those are there, Naamit will forever sing discordantly, off-key, or wailingly. Yippie.
KRAKII
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/30/2017 10:27 AM CDT
Here you go.
| 1. none | 2. abrupt | 3. airy | 4. alto |
| 5. amused | 6. angry | 7. annoying | 8. appealing |
| 9. bad | 10. baritone | 11. bass | 12. blatty |
| 13. boisterous | 14. breathy | 15. bright | 16. cacophonous |
| 17. calm | 18. chanting | 19. cheerful | 20. clear |
| 21. confident | 22. crooning | 23. dark | 24. deafening |
| 25. deep | 26. depressing | 27. discordant | 28. dolorous |
| 29. earnest | 30. edgy | 31. eery | 32. ethereal |
| 33. flat | 34. flowing | 35. funereal | 36. flirtatious |
| 37. gleeful | 38. grave | 39. grim | 40. grumpy |
| 41. happy | 42. harsh | 43. haunting | 44. hesitant |
| 45. hurried | 46. husky | 47. jaunty | 48. jolly |
| 49. jubilant | 50. lethargic | 51. lilting | 52. loud |
| 53. measured | 54. melodic | 55. merry | 56. methodic |
| 57. moaning | 58. mocking | 59. monotonous | 60. mournful |
| 61. nervous | 62. off-key | 63. operatic | 64. pedantic |
| 65. piercing | 66. playful | 67. pleading | 68. plodding |
| 69. pompous | 70. ponderous | 71. powerful | 72. proud |
| 73. quiet | 74. raucous | 75. resonant | 76. resounding |
| 77. rhythmic | 78. rollicking | 79. romantic | 80. sad |
| 81. seductive | 82. sharp | 83. shrieking | 84. shrill |
| 85. slow | 86. smooth | 87. snide | 88. soft |
| 89. somber | 90. sonorous | 91. soprano | 92. soulful |
| 93. sour | 94. squeaky | 95. staccato | 96. stern |
| 97. stuttering | 98. sweet | 99. teasing | 100. tender |
| 101. tenor | 102. terse | 103. thunderous | 104. tinkling |
| 105. tinny | 106. trembling | 107. trilling | 108. tuneful |
| 109. tuneless | 110. twittering | 111. vibrant | 112. vibrato |
| 113. wailing | 114. warbling | 115. warm | 116. weak |
| 117. whimsical | 118. whining | 119. wistful | 120. wry |
ARCHSENEX
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/30/2017 10:29 AM CDT
The title of this thread made me think of something else. Something that DOES change how you sing...
GSLOVER
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/30/2017 02:34 PM CDT
Huh!
Had no idea that was a thing. I mean, I had a vague knowledge you could use some of the speech tones when singing but didn't realize this also included "baritone", etc. I'm fairly new with my Bard character, though.
But do you have to choose between one or the other? Cause you should totally be able to sing off-key /and/ baritone at the same time.
Ideally you should be able to choose a vocal range (baritone, alto, soprano) independent of the vocal flavor or volume, if it's not already available.
You sing loudly in an off-key baritone voice.
You sing softly in a discordant soprano voice.
Etc. Etc.
But glad to know the things are there for the use.
Had no idea that was a thing. I mean, I had a vague knowledge you could use some of the speech tones when singing but didn't realize this also included "baritone", etc. I'm fairly new with my Bard character, though.
But do you have to choose between one or the other? Cause you should totally be able to sing off-key /and/ baritone at the same time.
Ideally you should be able to choose a vocal range (baritone, alto, soprano) independent of the vocal flavor or volume, if it's not already available.
You sing loudly in an off-key baritone voice.
You sing softly in a discordant soprano voice.
Etc. Etc.
But glad to know the things are there for the use.
KRAKII
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/30/2017 02:42 PM CDT
I posted the re-formatted table, but didn't actually, you know, READ it...
Was 'falsetto' one of the possibilities? If not, could it be added? :)
Was 'falsetto' one of the possibilities? If not, could it be added? :)
LUXELLE
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/30/2017 04:37 PM CDT
We could tap on some spoons to distraction...
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Rohese: "... the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)"
LUXELLE
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/30/2017 04:44 PM CDT
Some of them are good ideas, but some need some work in practice:
You sing trillingly:
"La La La La LA!"
That, and a number of others would be SO much better used like speech verbiage is used:
You trill:
"La La La La LA!"
You practically trill your song:
"La La La La LA!"
Something. Trillingly is not pretty. At All. Search/Replace Trillingly with others that use the same gerund plus adverb invention. It's not how we speak, how we read, or how we sing.
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Rohese: "... the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)"
You sing trillingly:
"La La La La LA!"
That, and a number of others would be SO much better used like speech verbiage is used:
You trill:
"La La La La LA!"
You practically trill your song:
"La La La La LA!"
Something. Trillingly is not pretty. At All. Search/Replace Trillingly with others that use the same gerund plus adverb invention. It's not how we speak, how we read, or how we sing.
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Rohese: "... the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)"
MOURNE
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/30/2017 04:51 PM CDT
>Some of them are good ideas, but some need some work in practice: -Lux
Yeah, the 'croon' option bothers me for the same reason. I still use it, but it's Wrong(tm).
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Cendadric says, "Hmm, a most impressive weapon of note. I'll give you 110 silver coins for it."
Yeah, the 'croon' option bothers me for the same reason. I still use it, but it's Wrong(tm).
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Cendadric says, "Hmm, a most impressive weapon of note. I'll give you 110 silver coins for it."
GSLOVER
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/30/2017 05:37 PM CDT
I realize this would probably take a lot of re-coding, but it would indeed be nice to have the 'SING' a bit more in line with SAY/SPEECH.
So you'd have something akin to 'SPEECH VERBIAGE' that would alter the default 'You sing'. IE croon, trill, chant, etc.
Then there'd be something similar to the speech tones that'd convey the mood (depressingly, loudly, off-key).
And ideally a separate, sing-only setting for vocal range. (Probably race/gender specific as to the range that can be chosen between?)
So you'd get:
You [sing-verbiage-type] [sing-tone] in a [vocal-range] voice.
You trill melodically in a soprano voice:
You warble off-key in a tenor voice:
... lot more flexibility.
So you'd have something akin to 'SPEECH VERBIAGE' that would alter the default 'You sing'. IE croon, trill, chant, etc.
Then there'd be something similar to the speech tones that'd convey the mood (depressingly, loudly, off-key).
And ideally a separate, sing-only setting for vocal range. (Probably race/gender specific as to the range that can be chosen between?)
So you'd get:
You [sing-verbiage-type] [sing-tone] in a [vocal-range] voice.
You trill melodically in a soprano voice:
You warble off-key in a tenor voice:
... lot more flexibility.
JOEKUPS
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/30/2017 05:43 PM CDT
Ah, I see, yeah there is Tone options, but not Verb options.
Wyrom says, "Ordim is the reason savants won't be coded as well."
Wyrom says, "Ordim is the reason savants won't be coded as well."
KRAKII
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/31/2017 09:07 AM CDT
Don't we also have sing/recite/chant? All of which use the semi-colon delimiter and give the tab-inset block format?
(Actually, GSWiki says that 'chant' is a stock response like "mumble", but that still leaves sing & recite.)
(Actually, GSWiki says that 'chant' is a stock response like "mumble", but that still leaves sing & recite.)
LUXELLE
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/31/2017 02:56 PM CDT
Trying chant with the multiple line format of sing/recite (like it worked in DragonRealms, I might add) gives you this response:
You chant an impromptu melodic lilt which causes the air around you to shimmer.
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Rohese: "... the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)"
You chant an impromptu melodic lilt which causes the air around you to shimmer.
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Rohese: "... the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)"
KRAKII
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/31/2017 03:16 PM CDT
Which is why I said that the GSWiki showed the 'chant' verb as a stock expression. :)
LUXELLE
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
05/31/2017 10:01 PM CDT
I'm wondering if it shows the same for non-bards now.
But still, I'd love to be able to use it in performances.
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Rohese: "... the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)"
But still, I'd love to be able to use it in performances.
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Rohese: "... the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)"
RATHBONER
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
06/01/2017 07:23 AM CDT
>I'm wondering if it shows the same for non-bards now.
Other professions have their own chants. Clerics have one for each deity.
Other professions have their own chants. Clerics have one for each deity.
LUXELLE
Re: Performance Enhancers Wishlist for Bards
06/01/2017 04:56 PM CDT
>> Other professions have their own chants. Clerics have one for each deity.
Thank you, Rathboner!
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Rohese: "... the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)"
Thank you, Rathboner!
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Rohese: "... the TownCrier (tune in if you haven’t, it’s without doubt the best thing to ever happen on LNet)"
