>As a WM, you should almost never leave combat.

I disagree. Leaving combat is fine as long as you keep your main combat skills moving. Training 7 weapons is kind of redundant. Granted I trained way more than 7 weapons, but...

>>I disagree. Leaving combat is fine as long as you keep your main combat skills moving. Training 7 weapons is kind of redundant. Granted I trained way more than 7 weapons, but...

That's certainly true. There are a few survivals that are a pain or impossible to train in combat. If you wanted you could take a break to work them in. But why? :-)

>>Is this a JOB or a GAME?

You don't have to get TDPs as fast as theoretically possible if you don't enjoy it.

>>I am learning 30 skills in combat right now...

WTH skills are you training? I call shenanigans.

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Off the cuff I'd guess:

1-5) Armors
6) Shield
7) Parry
8) MO
9) Evasion
10) Escaping
11) Skinning
12) Appraisal
13) Mech
14-18) All 5 magics
19) Hiding
20) Stalking
21) First Aid

Throw in a class and you can pick up
22) Teaching
23) Scholar
24) Whatever the topic is

Throw in 2 more armors if he's rotating them
25-26) Swap armor

And then you just need 4 weapon skills. That shouldn't be too hard to come up with.

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Dartenian says, "The thing that makes Dragon Dance king is that it pretty much bonuses every single that can possibly be buffed for combat. Including at least two things that don't even exist."

>>And then you just need 4 weapon skills. That shouldn't be too hard to come up with.

He said he never leaves combat. That would get rid of mech, magics are doable, MD/PP being the tough part, but that would mean he has to have like 6-7 weapons training at once and that's a lot of RT from pp/MD. Plus, where the hell ya get a spawn to support 6-7 weapons. I could see maybe ALL armors, but he also said he hasn't back trained his armors. So thats like 8 weapons needed to fill the gap. mmm. It's too early. I gotta leave for work. 8am fun :( My head now hurts.

Note also: He didn't say locked, I left out perception on accident, MD in combat is a little annoying but doable, PP in combat should stay locked the entire time and if it's not you're doing it wrong.

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Dartenian says, "The thing that makes Dragon Dance king is that it pretty much bonuses every single that can possibly be buffed for combat. Including at least two things that don't even exist."

yeah, you guys pretty much covered it.

You can also do escaping.

A lot of it is weapons and armor, more skills if you are willing to count switching hunting grounds as staying in combat as that opens up swimming, climbing, and backtraining weapons.

I have to script combat because I don't type/read fast enough to keep up. It's gotten to the point that I get myself killed if I spend too much time controlling the character manually. :-(

You have to stick with super swarmy creatures, which is why I am a big fan of keeping defenses as high as possible. The 4 critter cap makes this a lot easier.

I lock about half of the skills, the rest hover between 3 and 16 usually. Once I start hitting soft caps a lot of the weapons will drop out for a couple pulses.

I don't have an MD training section in my scripts, it seems to move well just by keeping SuF, SW, YS, ES, EASE, MAF up. EAS, MOF FISS, Zephyr under certain circumstances. TW when I train ranged. RM when I do hiding. I previously used cambrinth when training TM, but I haven't had to do that in a while.

I think newer players reading this are probably saying what the heck is this person talking about. A good thing to keep in mind is that I had to work up to this point by starting with a few skills and then working in a new one here and there as I saw space. Another issue is the fact that training gets easier the further you get into the game. The first 24 circles of WM were the hardest because I didn't have the abilities/spells/resources to really move a lot of skills. I also didn't know the best way to move the skills I wanted to learn because a fair number of them aren't exactly intuitive. Further, combat gets much easier because the learning sweet spot gets a lot wider after you hit level 30 or so.

Daenar--yes, having better stats absolutely helps training. It's another way in which the game gets easier as you progress.

08Subaru--that's exactly how it works. And the difficulty/amount of time it takes to rank in a given skill seems to level off around 300 (or at least it used to, it probably has changed) so TDPs become more and more abundant per unit of time.

The reason behind all of this is because it requires more bits to gain a rank as you move up in skill.

- Simon

Ranks get significantly harder all the way up until 2000. The 300 rank cap on difficulty was like... 4 exp revisions ago.

For instance, a single magic rank in TF at 1500 takes about 38 hours of max pulses on average, with capped mentals.

<<PP in combat should stay locked the entire time and if it's not you're doing it wrong.>>

I'm curious as well. Is there a new way to train PP other than concentrating? Or are you simply referring to the fact that most people move rooms while hunting?

>>Cast spells that are difficult for you. That's the only way to do it without power walking. It actually works fairly well but I'm generally too interested in combat to be casting enough spells to lock my PP.

Since the exp changes i can't get it past dabbling just by casting, which is fine as long as it's always at dabbling. I don't think there's a way to keep it locked in combat without roaming and perceiving often in those rooms. It seems that with the changes the learning from casting spells has gone way down. My TM was equal to PP when the changes came out now i'm over 50 ranks ahead and i'm not doing anything different training wise.

>>Since the exp changes i can't get it past dabbling just by casting, which is fine as long as it's always at dabbling. I don't think there's a way to keep it locked in combat without roaming and perceiving often in those rooms. It seems that with the changes the learning from casting spells has gone way down. My TM was equal to PP when the changes came out now i'm over 50 ranks ahead and i'm not doing anything different training wise.

I perceive every 60 seconds in the room I'm in without roaming and my PP stays locked

~Arwinia

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>It likely won't GET you to locked, but if you lock up before hunting (And you should, since it's easy) it'll easily maintain you there.

That method actually locks my cleric from clear at 273 ranks.

>Best i get is 6/34 at close to 500.

That doesn't tell us much except that your gain is outpacing your drain. If you did that long enough, you'd lock.