Does chain lightning need to be signature? 11/11/2018 11:54 AM CST
Can we make chain lightning non-signature in the same vein as shockwave and telekinetic storm?
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Re: Does chain lightning need to be signature? 11/11/2018 12:13 PM CST
>>Can we make chain lightning non-signature in the same vein as shockwave and telekinetic storm?

No, because CL is a WM perk, with its low cast difficulty and min prep.

GM Grejuva
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Re: Does chain lightning need to be signature? 11/11/2018 01:34 PM CST


Not the answer I wanted, but I appreciate the quick response.
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Re: Does chain lightning need to be signature? 11/11/2018 01:38 PM CST
We're already a bit over the top on the number of tools that Guilds have that are available to everyone via Sorcery. Right now if you don't train Sorcery, even ignoring TDPs, you are seriously gimping yourself.
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Re: Does chain lightning need to be signature? 11/11/2018 07:19 PM CST
I mean, does Uncurse's main functions need to be signature? As always, not all guilds contribute evenly...
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Re: Does chain lightning need to be signature? 11/11/2018 08:51 PM CST
So your comment on uncurse had me curious and I did a little research.

@Geruva, can I ask that this decision be reconsidered? I did a little research and it seems that the spell is not unique in terms of low minimum prep or difficulty. I understand why all cyclic AOE TM and Debilitators are signature, but it seems like this is the only single-cast AOE TM spell that is. Likewise, it's inconsistent to say that a guild's "niche" is signature (see bard and straight cast AOE debilitators as an example)




Chain Lightning Telekentic Storm Fireball Shockwave Smite HordeStarcrash
Signature YES NO NO NO NO YES
Difficulty IntermediateIntermediateIntermediateIntermediate AdvancedAdvanced
Min level required1010004040
Skill Range80-10080-10080-100250-1000250-1000250-1000
Mana cost 15-10015-10015-10030-10030-10030-200
Area of EffectRoomRoomMeleeRoomRoomRoom
Guild of OriginWar M.Moon M. War M. War M.PaladinTrader


Likewise, the bard thing is aoe debilitators, but neither DMRS and misdirection are similar, which are both low-prep, AOE debilitators (advanced and intermediate respectively). As an aside, does anyone know how to not trigger the knockback on shockwave, and can flame shockwave be learned via sorcery if you know both scrolls?
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Re: Does chain lightning need to be signature? 11/11/2018 09:50 PM CST
In fairness, the current incarnation of TKS is absolutely terrible, so you might be doing people a favor by making it signature.
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Re: Does chain lightning need to be signature? 11/12/2018 09:22 AM CST
TKS scrolls right into the gelapod.
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