POC's 05/26/2013 12:53 PM CDT
does the shop Primp my ride at guildfest actually sell POC's or is it just for customizations? if they dont, where did they originally come from?
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Re: POC's 05/26/2013 01:44 PM CDT
Yup, POCs are sold at Primp My Ride. That's where I got mine at Hollow's Eve.

http://elanthipedia.org/w/index.php/Primp_My_Ride

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Re: POC's 05/26/2013 02:44 PM CDT
hollows eve, or guild fest? dont remember seeing the shop at that fest, but hoping I'll be able to finally make it to guildfest to get one
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Re: POC's 05/26/2013 03:07 PM CDT
>>hollows eve, or guild fest?

Since about 2010 or so, every hollows eve AND guildfest has sold POC's. One has a shop called Primp My Ride, the other has a shop called Reinventing the Wheel. They usually sell 10 designs each year, where maybe around half will be new ones and half will be recycled from past years

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Re: POC's 05/26/2013 04:31 PM CDT
aaaaah got ya. with all the different guilds i was shopping for, my trader wasn't top priority and the only shop i was looking out for was primp my ride
thanks
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Re: POC's 05/31/2013 11:48 AM CDT
...something new is coming. Those two shops won't be quite the same.

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Re: POC's 05/31/2013 12:10 PM CDT
I'm going to guess traveling shops.
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Re: POC's 05/31/2013 12:29 PM CDT
<<...something new is coming. Those two shops won't be quite the same.

We're still going to be able to customize our caravans though, right?
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Re: POC's 05/31/2013 03:26 PM CDT
>We're still going to be able to customize our caravans though, right?

When the new bit is finished, yes. Mechs have cleared QC (MANY thanks to Abasha for the last-minute covering), and the shop is almost ready. Primp My Ride won't be open initially when the fest opens. The goal is to have it released by the end of the fest, though.

TLDR For What's Below:
24/7 POC shops are coming. Instead of buying fully furnished interior rooms at a fest, you can ask any trader minister about INTERIOR to buy one for 750 platinum local currency. You can ASK MINISTER ABOUT FURNITURE for a list of what you have (maybe tied into RECALL CARAVAN in the future). Primp My Ride and similar shops will stop selling interiors, for now, because they're complicated on the staff side. POCs will be more like homes in that you can buy individual pieces of furniture, you can TAP furniture to hide or unhide it, and you can ask a trader minister about REMOVAL to take something out of the inside and put it in a slip that can be traded/swapped/sold/whatever. POCs are limited to 10 furniture items (1 door, 2 large, 3 medium, 4 small pieces). Existing POCs need to be converted to new system; a guild representative will be available during fest to do this. No changes to existing level restrictions. This is primarily focused on the interior customizations, for now. More to come.



In a nutshell, we've reinvented the wheel, but made improvements. The new shop system will be easier for staff to work with, which means more shops and more options in the long run. It also opens the door for 24/7 POC shops. The old mechanics resulted in a LOT of unused interiors. Each fest, we'd release new designs. Any that didn't sell were left, potentially to be re-released at the next fest though not always. As an example from Prime:

70 claimed rooms.
103 unclaimed rooms.

When the new bits are released, you'll be able to purchase your FIRST interior room at level 50 (same as now) from almost any trade minister at the trading outposts for 750 platinum of the local currency -- you won't need to wait on a fest to get your POC interior. However, it's going to pull (in order) from those unclaimed rooms. This means that some folks will get those rooms cheaper than they were offered at fests. There's a drawback, though, and I'll get to that in a bit.

The new shops are based on the home shop system. They are primarily designed for buying furniture for your interior. Primp My Ride's mechanics for choosing exterior customizations will stay in play, just not its handling of interiors. Each interior is limited to one door, two large items, three medium items and four small items: a total of 10 furniture items. The 'size' is ultimately up to the GM making the shop and how they envision the item. In general, a bed or a dining table would be a large item, a floor rug or chairs would be medium, and portraits or flower vases would be small. There's room for overlap, and the shop will tell you what they are before you buy.

The drawback I mentioned before is that ALL existing POC interiors will not recognize the existing furniture. There's no easy way to auto-convert anything besides the doors (which will happen). A merchant will be available at points throughout the fest to update for those available. He will NOT provide alterations -- only document the furniture you have with the guild so they're aware of the sizes and types. You'll be able to ask the trade ministers about FURNITURE to get a list of what they recognize. Unconverted/unrecognized furniture DOES count against your 10-item limit, they just lack proper size info until converted.

Some other home features will be available at release as well: You'll be able to ASK MINISTER ABOUT REMOVAL to have a piece of furniture in your caravan removed and turned into a furniture slip. This will let you reorganize and redecorate as you like. You can sell/trade/gift/trash/whatever the slips to others. You can ASK MINISTER ABOUT FURNITURE to get a list of the furniture in your caravan -- it only recognizes converted furniture. At some point, I'd like to get that utility built into RECALL CARAVAN. You can TAP converted (new system) furniture to hide or unhide it. Any hidden furniture will be like ships at a dock:

Placed around the interior, you see: some furniture.
>l furni
Among the furniture, you notice a mud-stained mat with layers of grime stomped into it and a towering open entryway.




This is a phase 1 release of these new tools. I wanted enough to make the system functional for new folks buying an interior but also have options for existing owners to do some customizing. In the future, we'll have shops that sell interior descriptions so you can change those out and maybe your room's name too (X's Caravan, Interior). Initial support for LTB-style furniture vouchers (HOME vouchers will NOT work in POC shops) is in the system, though we're not releasing that until I'm sure the shop mechs work properly on a large scale (yay fests!). Scents and pets shouldn't be too hard to add. After guild fest, staff will have a green light to make as many of these shops as they like, wherever they like (fest or 24/7 access). I also have NO doubt at all that you all will have a flood of ideas for new features once you get a chance to play with things.

For the Premium home crowd, don't fret much about these stepping on the toes of homes. Homes still have many more options available (and allow for good amounts of storage). The home shop system was the best model to base this on, as most staff are already familiar with setting up those types of shops which makes troubleshooting issues that arise easier behind-the-scenes. This may also open the doors for some new toys for homes in the future.

We'll get a NEWS article up and another post here on the forums once the shop is released. It won't happen over the weekend; I'll save you some camping time for that. :)

SGM Zadraes
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Re: POC's 05/31/2013 05:41 PM CDT
I love you guys!

On a whim...: http://www.lostonawhim.com/

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Re: POC's 05/31/2013 05:51 PM CDT
And how close are we to getting tables for wares on our caravans? :)

On a whim...: http://www.lostonawhim.com/

The Zoluren army asks, "We're um.... really sorry about the clubhouse and all... so uh... are we cool?"

Train? Why? I'll get there eventually...
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Re: POC's 06/03/2013 04:03 PM CDT


Hey, Zadraes, that stuff looks really exciting! Any ETA on when you think the minister interior part's going to come online?
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Re: POC's 06/03/2013 05:59 PM CDT
All this is awesome! I cannot wait, there is so much talk about customizing, but how do I get my POC? is it some closly guarded secret? Is there already a way to get em, and I have just over looked it? I thought the only way to get a POC was through the shop Primp my ride. But if I can get the POC some place else that would be great to know as well.
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Re: POC's 06/03/2013 06:34 PM CDT
The mechs have cleared QC. The shop needs some finishing touches and then a QC. It'll all be released together -- trade ministers + shop mechs. I'm aiming for Guild Fest if my fellow staff doesn't shoot me for such a late QC request on the shop.

>I thought the only way to get a POC was through the shop Primp my ride.

Until these mechs release, yes. After they release, you'll speak to a trade minister at an outpost which pulls these out of the realm of fest-only and into 24/7 access. There won't be 24/7 shops for a bit, though, as I'll have to do some bribing to see where we can get them set up.

SGM Zadraes
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Re: POC's 06/09/2013 09:16 PM CDT
Well, with a week left in the festival, I hope the QC guys come through. If not, when can I get my caravan interior updated for the new system?

Gnara the Gnome Trader's (and others) player
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Re: POC's 06/10/2013 03:45 PM CDT
>>Well, with a week left in the festival, I hope the QC guys come through. If not, when can I get my caravan interior updated for the new system?

Not to speak for GMs, but I don't think there's any hard and fast rule saying that merchants can't show up outside of specific situations. It's not like the caravan merchant explicitly has to show up and guildfest and only guildfest.



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Re: POC's 06/10/2013 04:28 PM CDT
<Not to speak for GMs, but I don't think there's any hard and fast rule saying that merchants can't show up outside of specific situations. It's not like the caravan merchant explicitly has to show up and guildfest and only guildfest.



Well, naturally merchants don't have to show up during the festival. That's why I was asking about when I could catch one if it doesn't happen. Much as I might wish I could, I can't camp in the game all the time hoping to catch one.

Gnara the Gnome Trader's (and others) player
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Re: POC's 06/10/2013 05:00 PM CDT


<<Well, with a week left in the festival, I hope the QC guys come through. If not, when can I get my caravan interior updated for the new system?


God.

She was asking if Zad had any idea if the goal to get the new PoC mechanics and shop out before the festival was over would still happen since there's a week left. Like what's actually quoted above... And if that can't happen if there was a plan for the people with interiors to get it updated.
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Re: POC's 06/10/2013 08:54 PM CDT
Still hoping for an appearance at guild fest. If it doesn't make it, the shop can open outside of guild fest.

I'm also still hoping to get a someone in to convert existing interiors. We'll get it covered, one way or another, sooner or later.

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Re: POC's 06/10/2013 08:56 PM CDT
...I'll schedule at least one appearance on the calendar, when I can nail down my own schedule, so folks can plan for it. Doesn't mean there won't be an impromptu appearance, but I'll give you guys something to plan for as well.

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Re: POC's 06/10/2013 09:08 PM CDT
<...I'll schedule at least one appearance on the calendar, when I can nail down my own schedule, so folks can plan for it. Doesn't mean there won't be an impromptu appearance, but I'll give you guys something to plan for as well.

<SGM Zadraes



Much appreciated! I'll keep an eye out.

Gnara the Gnome Trader's (and others) player
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Re: POC's 06/11/2013 12:45 AM CDT
Primp My Ride and its new sister shop have opened in Plat. It'll be coming to Prime in the next day or two provided nothing blows up over there.

More to come.

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Re: POC's 06/11/2013 12:53 AM CDT


Does this mean that the new mechanics will open along with it? Really want Mofasah to have his interior! Plus lazy susan thing.
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Re: POC's 06/11/2013 12:56 AM CDT
>Does this mean that the new mechanics will open along with it?

Like I said a few posts back, it will all release together. It's a package deal. The interior part of Primp My Ride lost its inventory, but the parts that focus on the exterior are still there. A new shop, Custorian's Creations, will handle the interior furniture (and eventually more). When it releases, if you already have an interior, you can go straight to the shop. If you don't, you'll need to talk to a minister first.

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Re: POC's 06/11/2013 07:58 AM CDT
Hooray!
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Re: POC's 06/11/2013 09:11 AM CDT
<Custorian's Creations

I hope this is going to be next door to Primp My Ride so I can find it quickly!

Gnara the Gnome Trader (and others) player
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