I DID join the guild a while back cause it was a brotherhood.. and ya got real neat stuff! But now its just worthless..every new person who enters the realm can walk up to a Warmie or a Moonie and say 'Where's the Thief guild' and the person will tell em.. gawd.. Then ya got the mad circlers who do nothing but train and circle all day.. it used to be fun when people actually Roleplayed.. the guild just gets worse every day.. I just say I'm a bard now, being a thief doesn't scare anyone anymore.. like it used to when the guild first came out.