All I can say is, this spell is a waste of a slot, it not even niche useful. I've tried it in various situations, Duration is just way too short, difficulty is way to hard, benefits are just not there for the mana. Concept is great either it should be a ritual spell with a higher duration, or a cyclic spell I just don't know how to make this usable and interesting at this point with the current duration.

The Dragon priest hisses, "We'd have won, too, if it weren't for thossse meddling kidsss."
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>.All I can say is, this spell is a waste of a slot, it not even niche useful. I've tried it in various situations, Duration is just way too short, difficulty is way to hard, benefits are just not there for the mana. Concept is great either it should be a ritual spell with a higher duration, or a cyclic spell I just don't know how to make this usable and interesting at this point with the current duration.

What are your magic skills?

It's intended to be an extremely high-level perk, as it heavily curtails the penalty to being inside a city for an extended period, which is one of the fundamental flaws of the guild by design.

I like this spell to. My duration isn't great yet, but I use it before each hunt trip in urban areas. Doesn't cover the whole trip, but certainly helps cut down on bonus loss. Also, cast it before each segment of my stealing run, and so I have no problems with that extra time in urban areas.

Huge boon to my style of play.

Jalika

I'm in agreement w/ Dae there, i'd like to see this spell allow us to cast wilderness only spells in town while it's on the ranger. i.e. COTW, GRIZ, BB That'd make it useful.

~Nefidyne

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Kssarh gestures at you.
Two Ranger journeymen materialize out of the surrounding trees and begin to whisper to Kssarh as they escort him out of the area.

You reach out with your senses and see flickering streams of deep green and blue Life mana flowing through the area.
Letting your senses extend further, you feel there is glowing mana to the west, shimmering mana to the south, and flickering mana to the east.
You sense the Memory of Nature spell upon you, which will last for about twenty-two roisaen.
You are preparing the Earth Meld spell at twenty-one mana.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>l
[Shard, North City Gates]
The massive gates of the city of Shard rise up to the north. The twin doors of steel-braced ironwood give access to the North Bridge across the Lake of Tears. Somber guards watch on the battlements above. You also see the Sentinel Esharis, a prominent warning sign and a ladder to the top of the wall.
Also here: Antea.
Obvious paths: east, south, west.
R>
Glancing about the area, Sentinel Esharis takes on a very serene look.
>cast
You reach with both your hands and your senses for the wisdom of the earth.
The pattern for the Earth Meld spell cannot be manifested in this place.
>pre griz
Since you're not feeding enough power into the spell pattern to make it coherent, you quickly work your way to the minimum required.
With meditative movements you prepare your body for the Grizzly Claws spell.
>cast
You roar and draw your arms back. Unfortunately, you cannot muster the proper attunement to Nature in this place.
You sense the spell's energies fade, wasted.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

a less urban test


[Shard, North Bridge]
The Tower of Shard stabs upward over the city walls directly south, accompanied by a smaller, darker tower masked in its own gloom. To the north a vast field leads up to the edge of the Dragon's Breath Forest.
Also here: Antea.
Obvious paths: north, south.
>pre em
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Since you're not feeding enough power into the spell pattern to make it coherent, you quickly work your way to the minimum required.
With meditative movements you prepare your body for the Earth Meld spell.
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You feel fully rested.
>cast
You reach with both your hands and your senses for the wisdom of the earth.
The pattern for the Earth Meld spell cannot be manifested in this place.
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I have 550 utility and around 750 or more life magic etc. I can cast at around 65 mana so I get about 30 minutes when.



The Dragon priest hisses, "We'd have won, too, if it weren't for thossse meddling kidsss."
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It would be cool if it allowed us to cast wilderness spells in town, whether in general or based on how much mana you put in vs how urban the environment is.

Either way, I still think it is a very useful spell.
I can now turn metal into ingots, help out in invasions, participate in meetings, go to auctions, or just chat with people in town without tanking my bonus.
I can cast it to last just under 30 minutes which is often more than enough time to do what I need to in town.. otherwise I can run back out of town real quick to recast, no big deal.

>>spell allow us to cast wilderness only spells in town while it's on the ranger.

This is about the only thing at would make it more than a parlor trick. While bonus is useful and all that jazz for a spell that is that crazy hard to cast there should be some other perk beside something that most of us have lived 5+ years with.

My personal opinion is that this should have been a 3rd cyclic spell and just made the ranger feel as though they were in a a different stage of room based on how much mana was in each pulse.

Make it suck 20 mana or 30 mana a pulse... whatever.

This would be 100x more useful and would make much more sense.

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Player of Diggan, Ranger & Halfing of Aesry

MMM wrong again. Though i'd like to see it actually do something other than slow the decay of a bonus. I'd like to see it;

A.) Let us cast spells in town we can't otherwise cast

B.) have the duration pushed up ALOT, and the min prep lowered ALOT if A is found unacceptable.

C.) Make it so inexperienced players can't crosspost outside of their main knowledge base.

~Nefidyne

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Kssarh gestures at you.
Two Ranger journeymen materialize out of the surrounding trees and begin to whisper to Kssarh as they escort him out of the area.

Don't feel bad buddy, it SHOULD do what you typed. Honestly. The problem here is it doesn't which is why we're in the complaints folder?


~Nefidyne

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Kssarh gestures at you.
Two Ranger journeymen materialize out of the surrounding trees and begin to whisper to Kssarh as they escort him out of the area.

Alright, just finished the testing I had intended to do previously. Turns out my hunch was correct. I'll update elanthipedia again:

MON gives a slight bonus to your effective wilderness room-bonus. You likely won't notice a change in a high wilderness area, but the effect is noticeable in high urban areas. A room's wilderness setting is quantifiable when checked against your min/max spell preps (via DISCERN if your skill is higher enough to get that information):

For instance, standing outside the Crossing guild, the max prep for Instinct should be 91. If you step inside to the West Grove (go door, go door, weest), the max prep will drop to 90. This amounts to an effective spell casting bonus the more wild the room is. If you step outside the gate to the guild (which is 'trapped animal', you'll notice the max prep for Instinct jump to 106. With MON it drops to 104. Also, within the Empath guild (which is neutral) it drops from 100 to 99.

You can also quick-check using PACE, but the messaging with PACE is not really granular enough to tell you if you are getting the bonus in some areas. However, if MON pushes you up high enough, you'll notice that the PACE messaging changes.

I tested from 30-45 mana (my personal cap) and the bonus does not appear to scale. Given that this is the pinnacle of Ranger spell casting, it would be nice to have the spell scale.

Thanks
GENT

Oh by the way you might find that you could already cast GRIZ, COTW, BLEND, in neutral areas. MoN didn't change that.

~Nefidyne

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Kssarh gestures at you.
Two Ranger journeymen materialize out of the surrounding trees and begin to whisper to Kssarh as they escort him out of the area.