Having had a run-in with a prydaen named Skratchy earlier today, I really have to put forward a suggestion related to the squelching of future problems of this nature--why not have a little OOC blurb added in about RPing the race when you touch or look at a statue? I don't think people understand that it demeans the animalistic races as a whole when someone picks a name like Viperman or Wolfpack.

Also, I've seen far too many elotheans who knew NOTHING of the houses, and plenty of Elves who were similarly uneducated about the clans.

While DR has never been a total RP environment, it ruins it for some of us when we run into people like this.

Just a thought/complaint/suggestion,

--Kahvan

its not a necessity to RP to know about your race. I play an elf who doesnt know much about clans but does that make me a bad RPer? no it just makes my charecter unkowledgeable about clans. theres many ways to RP though do not think i am defending a bad name choice, cause i am not, i think that blanket statements about RP are uncalled for. theres many different ways to RP. Have a nice day.

Verbal

two points for me! "Huzzah"

Verbal

Who signs up for DR without reading the web site info, though? That would seem to clear up a lot of the confusion on Prydaens, etc. Maybe just add a bit more info to the web site (clans, houses, whatever).

Arcelebor

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"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."

I have copies upo copies of notes on dwarven clans, even thought I think dwarves may be some of the better RPed players of the realms, I have not often seen bad dwarven RP..... just the other day I alsomst came to blows with a mountain elf(an amasing RPer by the by) over an in game in charater completely RPed dispute.... some of the most fun I've ever had!

Roughneck Deagar

Do dwarves refer to themselves as 'dwarves'? If so, why? Wouldn't the term 'dwarf' be a matter of perspective, in this case the perspective of the larger races?

~The player of Nevynral

I am dwarf hear me roar! yeah in DR Dwarf doesn't mean small, it is the name of the race, also, as for "Bad" dwarven RP, there are Many clans, some more social than others, also the marrying an elf thing aint that bad, some of my best friends are elves, granted a few of them ACT like dwarves because I rubbed off on them! but anyway, we don't want Cookie cutter characters based on race, so if you loosely base your RP on the clan history but add your own flair it makes for great RP!


Roughneck Deagar

>When I first started playing long ago, I had no clue what it meant to touch the 'Elothean' statue. Getting into the game, figuring out the commands... I ended up in the library somehow, and it was quite an experience to see what House she had been born into without my realizing it. It became the basis of my RP for her, and actually enhanced my experience of the game. So, sometimes... it's nice to leap in and see what happens.<

Uhhh... yeah, I did the same thing when I first started playing (different character). Except I ended up past the brook, and got owned by an ogre.


~ Renous
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I must go down to the seas again
to the vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull's way and the whale's way
where the wind's like a whetted knife

Dwarves speak with a geordie accent sometimes? hrm gotta keep my eyes open for that, as I am a geordie myself... allthough I have noticed quite a bit of scottish accent sneaking in.

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Gilvore Sneaksie-Sasiknak.
The parrot sings in a scratchy voice:

"Rissan girls, they have no combs
... Heave away, haul away...
They comb their hair with cod-fish bones
... Heave away, haul away home!"

>XP Don't speak with a lisp, unless you WANT to be treated like a hick!

Or make someone think you're from Spain.

Then why is Hiss especially designed for S'kras' to use as a racial verb... if it is not mean to speak in a hissing manner (for those who did not learn to speak without thier racial accent)

and as far as not owning up to a house or clan for other races...who says they even came from the 'known' continents of Elanthia...yes I am sure there are 'Unknown' places and islands where chars can say they orgiginated from. yeah there are new hunting areas/places that are coming out every so often to accomidate the higher circles.. so whos ta say there are no other continents/places we dont know about in Elanthia ?

Now if you wanna talk about people not knowing how to RP focus on the individuals that say things like OMG... not the whole thing spelled out but OMG or JK... or the all popular LOL... or talking indepth ICly about the coding and how best to manipulate the Mechs of the game..speaking...at least most of them think, in an IC fashion.. seeing nothing wrong with talking aloud about percentages and the best way to utilize a hunting script...

More and more I see convos like this out in 'public', I just thank the gods I dont use gweths ... I think its generated by the turnover and lack of actual careing about RP and the feeling that hack-N-slash is what is means to RP
I mean so many systems are getting so ' realistic ' and complicated people just dont seem to care about trying to keep things IC in game, but rather how to get the 'edge' on a new system so they can PvP someone else to death.. leaving actually caring to stay within the theme of DR... something most cant afford...or Feel they cant afford. if they wanna be the 'best'

~ shrugs ~

~jes felt like rambling :P

I can actually sort of handle the annoying OOCness in ACT...What bugs me is what people from other MU*s I've played call "twinking": Forcing emotions or actions on another character. Or even performing an action on another character without the player's implied permission.

At a recent mentor event, someone used ACT to sneak up behind my character and pull her dress down over her rump (implying she'd forgotten to pull the dress on completely herself).

I was torn between telling them to learn how to RP properly in whispers or killing their character for being an utter twit.

I just left the event early instead, simply because (sadly) some/most people I've come across think what this person did would be stellar roleplay and a wonderful use of the ACT verb.

At least with OOCness in ACT, you can report it. You can't do a damn thing about twinks.

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Rev. Reene, player of a few
"Goodness had nothing to do with it, dearie." - Mae West

My most recent, but still growing RP peeve is teh people who have a dozen characters who, while they stay IC in general the IC is all teh SAME. Including knowing and being involved in everything the other cahracters are involved in. Bah. A true role means being a different person, not another shell to hodl the soul.

You all know the types I mean. The ones that walk one character and immediately roll another with a similar stupid name, have the same 'mother' all the same friends, and get a commision in the military as a sergent at circle 2, just because of their 'rp' (couhg) buddies.

As bad as the people that become furious if one of your characters acts one way in keeping with their rp and another character acts in a different manner in keeping with that rp, like the player had in some way lied to them.

There is a very nice discussion in the Plat Folder available to all about the difference between player to player interactions and character to character interactions.

I try though to just do my own thing and let each of my characters have their own stories. Though this does not mean that the stories will never over lap, or that some characters may not react in the same way to some things.

Being individual characters does not mean they have to be polar opposites. In fact, some might even have some of the same friends and dislike some of the same people.

It's just that they don't have to have the same friends either. It is not lying if one of my characters might likes a character that another of my characters hates. This has nothing to do with the player. Likewise, any one of my characters might like one player's characer and actively dislike anther of that same player's characters. It's called rp.

RP does mean that you take the time to develop a character concept and history for each and play the character in keeping with that. These should be unique, not carbon copies of each other.

It helps to research your character's race and the history of the realms. It helps to go to a gaming store and get a few books and read the sections on making up character histories and fleshing out your character. There are also all sorts of sites out there about rp games and how to make unique and complex characters.

Some of them have list of helpful questions to ask yourself in developing a character history. Some of them even have listings of quirks and other traits that might help you come up with unique concepts.

I have often wished that DR had a way to select such things as quirks as optional character features and have those actually impact our automatic reactions the way demeanor does. It might help some people learn to rp. The rest of us could have fun with it, along the lines of having demeanor, scent, and shift available.

In the meantime, I try to not let those that cannot tell the difference between a character and a player and a game and reality destroy it for me. I figure it's their loss. They are missing out on most of the fun of a rp game. I refuse to spend my limited time being a member of the rp police. I am not really into telling other people how to play this game. I am here to have fun with my characters.

Mists and Magic, Ocean Breazes, Deep Rivers Under the Sea, Trails Between the Stars: Where nothing is as it seems.

>DRAKEWARLORD's post

Wish everyone would read this, thank you for the post.


~Skylira Mer'Luna~

Oh sorry, the site is:

http://www.fateweaver.net


Webmaster of Fate, Meerc

What contemptable scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch?
- W.C. Fields

I thought there was only Tenemlor, Demrris, and Eu-Demrris-Tenemlor. I could be wrong, though, as I don't play a Prydaen.


Thillieir, Prophet of G'nar Peth

J'aime le bebe.

I tend to interpret it to mean that Eu is existence/Tao/God-Itself

That Demrris and Tenemlor are 'interpretations' (not so much avatars) of Eu. Though avatars is an appropriate way to put it.

And when Eu Eu's self (never he/she/it) decides to muster togethers Eu's conciousness, Eu appears in the form of Eu-Demrris-Tenemlor..

Sort of like, Eu can't appear, since Eu can't really manifest.. Much like if God in Christian-Judeo ideas were to appear, it would break man's brain. They can't gaze on God's actual form. Indeed, every time you see/hear God in the Bible, it's actually an Angel.. The Metatron I believe? Mispelling perhaps, don't care to check..

So, yeah... I dunno. That's how I've interpretted it.

And when one says "Eu" they of course mean the Tri-form, because, Eu Eu's self can't appear in reality, since reality can't contain Eu

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It's regretful that the most common type of person in this world is someone small, in a big chair.

"Additionally, Eu is the Prydaen language word for nature. It's quite fair to say that Eu is nature, and the natural world."

Exactly. When Meerc describes Eu, he sounds very much like Morpheus telling Neo about the Matrix. I tend to think of Eu as "Mother Nature"


What contemptable scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch?
- W.C. Fields

Certainly, Vein, I sent an explanation and an offer on several ways for me to go about it. I'm not ashamed to discuss them here, if something's wonky with either of our servers. I'll resend the email, if I can find it(I may have reformatted since then) and if you don't get it feel free to IM me at Fateweaver Meerc for a more live discussion. If all else fails, the boards work.

In short though, as I said before, the Prydaen verb list on my site is taken ver batim(sp?) off of clawandfang. Also, like I said, I never received an email in return to my reply, so assumed you either a) didn't care or b) were too snotty to actually want to deal with it. Didn't occur to me that maybe the message had gotten lost somewhere. My bad!


aaand sent!

Webmaster of Fate, Meerc

What contemptable scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch?
- W.C. Fields