I was just hanging around behind the barricade waiting for some rock trolls to pop up, when I look down and find a thief with his hand in my pocket. Naturally, I was mad, but realized I wasn't sure what to do. Is it right for me to seek revenge on the thief and attack him? As Paladins, I know we lose soul for this, but does this go against any beliefs of the guild? I'm not sure exactly where the line is between defending the innocent (me, in this case) and just plain revenge is. Any advice would be appreciated.

Ihbn

>Honestly, if I were you, I'd leave well enough alone or go get some big buddies. 9 out of 10 times if someone is stealing from you in rockies and you're learning your primary skills their you don't have a snowball's chance in hell of beating them.

Also, post their names here so the paladins that like to 'watch' for these people can add another name to their list.

Litharius

>I don't think it should be possible to steal from someone that is engaged to something at melee... they're moving around too much.

It isn't.

H> assess
You assess your combat situation...

A spotted field goblin (1: solidly balanced) is behind Dayok at melee range.
A field goblin (2: nimbly balanced) is behind Dayok at melee range.
A short field goblin (3: very badly balanced) is facing Dayok at melee range.
A field goblin (5: nimbly balanced) is behind Dayok at melee range.
A field goblin (6: nimbly balanced) is behind Dayok at melee range.
A musk hog (1: nimbly balanced) is behind Dayok at melee range.
Dayok (nimbly balanced) is facing a short field goblin (3) at melee range.
H> steal dayok
A spotted field goblin searches the area.
Dayok slices an engraved scimitar at a short field goblin. A short field goblin partially blocks with a target shield. The scimitar lands a good strike that nicks its left forearm!
H>
Dayok is engaged in melee right now, and you wouldn't want to catch a stray blade.
H>


If someone is stealing from you in melee, it's a bug.

Litharius

Be careful when going after teefs in rockies

lots of higher level pocket pickers hang out there just looking for fights

and when you die in rockies, you cannot be dragged out

thanks. the thief's name was Thievs, for those who watch out for such things.

thievs is 70th plus, and he is a guilded thief.
and he's just as capable of nullifying approach time as schvartz is, having almost the same stealing skill.

i stand corrected.

many folks that steal there aren't guilded tho.

Maybe ye thiefs should step up and protect yer profession and stop those other guilds from stepping on yer turf. Insted of telling us who it is and who not it is...A person who steals from me or any other is still a thief guilded or not...

Crusader Taghz

True, Taghz, somebody is a thief if they steal, regardless of whether they're a Thief or not. But considering who most of the people stealing are, the only thing most Thieves can do is steal from the troublemakers, who don't care about the money anyway, and then get our butts kicked by people like Thievs or Arjen or whatever. Maybe the highest could do something about it, but I bet they couldn't care less what's going on in Rockies.

Toren Sunreign-Jade-Stone, S'kra Gopher

I would protect our turf if I could. For example, after leaving the Rocky area because I had outgrown it, I returned a few months later to "hunt" and see how long it took for a non-guilded to dip in my pockets. Of course, I was there only a few minutes and even though I was a bit above that fighting range, I still couldn't touch the guy.

I had also noticed in the past, that they would go to the area pick/start fights as they were getting ready to log off and go to bed or do whatever. Like it was just a quick bit of bullying before heading out into the real world.

I'm also not worried about the policy thing, but I'm not about to start hunting someone down on another's word whom I don't know. That just opens a whole can of worms.

The people doing those sort of things (stealing to simply start fights they know they can't lose) usually have their name on a board at Simu. So under the circumstance that I'm in Rockies in the future, see a known trouble maker running around with his profession off giving us a bad name, and decide to enforce guild justice, I'm 99.9% sure the GM isn't going to lock me out. Maybe, and I stress maybe, a verbal warning at most just for lip service to the policy; they are just as human as we are and I'm sure smile to themselves when a trouble-maker "gets what's coming to them". Besides, what is the perp going to say, "I was causing trouble and someone my own size met up with me"?

a little known thief

I almost killed a dude who was trying to steal from me while I hunted.

Only reason I didn't was because of that STUPID SOUL HIT that SHOULDN'T EXIST.

Calemnon, the dude who probably has the entire thief guild after him after his recent talk with Vorclaf

oh? and precisely what did you discuss with Vorclaf, Calemnon?


-schvartz-

Schvartz, basically he tried to get OOC theft mechanics changed through an IC venue.

I.E., he wanted to make it so that you could accuse people you catch stealing from others or people whose hands are crushed, as well as people outside of town.

Not really something bad for a Paladin to do, even if it won't happen for a looong time even if the higher ups liked it. The really funny part is Calemnon the character was going on about how aggression and such is a crime and bad, and then talks about crushing hands chortle.

Toren Sunreign-Jade-Stone, S'kra Gopher

no, self defense is putting your coins in the BANK.

<<<<no, self defense is putting your coins in the BANK.>>

Nope self defense is defending the self. If someone is trying to take something of mine, that is on my person, without asking for my permission I can only assume they are a hostile individual. You put your hand on my person I will crush it because you initiated the attack...

--Just a Squire

Youll almost never find a guild thief in your pockets in a hunting area. 99% of hunting areas are outside of towns, places we dont receive a bonus. Additionally it just adds to our reputation. The only guild thieves that steal are usually very young thieves and at some point someone straightens them out nice and proper.


Now barbs and moonies...the ones in rockies (wont name names) those are the problem makers.

-Constatine

Kadran's not a good example of a guilded Thief. She's not really a good example for anything.

It's kinda funny, ya know

My perception is severly lacking and I rarly catch any thief or non guilded thief in my pocket so I don't really know. I'm a easy target but I doubt I pay well as I'm always broke..

Poor perception, poor funds and easy target but I never know it most the time so ignorance is bliss, and looking at the way people react I'd go lose some perception ranks - what ya don't know won't hurt you ::grins::

~TankGirl~

Oh, and if I do catch one its because (which is always around Crossing) I just accuse them to the guards, they get coins and I get a soul boost.. kinda pleasing - copper for soul food !