Re: An IC explanation please? (for thug zombies 04/24/2010 02:41 PM CDT
<<My character has recently started hunting thugs <undershard and crossing variety>, at times making zombies in the process. She has noticed that her thugs don't call out to Idon any more - However, the thugs that somehow are "created" by themselves, still cast spells and call out to Idon.

<<Knowing that the <ingame lore> clerics say the gods hate the undead, and the immortals forsake those who create zombies -.. 1.how are these zombies "created" without necromantic magic, and 2. why would the zombies still call upon one of the Immortals?

Easiest IC explanation lies in the creation of these randomly made thug zombies. Not all of the Immortals hate undead. They do all hate those who try to control life and death, usurping at the very least and stealing at the very most, the powers of the Immortals. Maybe an Immortal makes the random zombie. Maybe there isn't a necromantic entity creating these zombies.

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Re: An IC explanation please? (for thug zombies 04/24/2010 03:01 PM CDT
>>Not all of the Immortals hate undead.

Actually, they do, IIRC


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Re: An IC explanation please? (for thug zombies 04/24/2010 03:15 PM CDT
Some immortals hate undead, others don't.

They do however, hate mortals who make undead. Why? Depends on whether you ask Clerics or Necromancers.

Examples: Idon and the thugs, Asketi and her hordes. There are also plenty of examples of undead without any explicit connection to Necromancers.



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Re: An IC explanation please? (for thug zombies 04/24/2010 03:23 PM CDT
Sorry for the double post, here's what I was looking for:


>The gods do not, unqualifiably, "hate the undead." We have gods that make active use of the undead (hi2u Asketi). If the gods want to curse a soul to forever be denied their final reward, that's their business and who are we to judge?

>The gods hate people creating the undead. The more Cleric-friendly stance is that the Necromancers use genuine, Maelshyve-style evil to do the deed, a power from another realm that is antithetical to the continued spiritual and physical survival of life on the Plane of Abiding.

>The more Necromancer-friendly stance is that the Necromancers are Promethean figures, who have dared to steal an arbitrary "divine providence" and taken it as the right of mankind.

http://elanthipedia.com/wiki/Post:Anti-Guild_Sentiments_-_1/26/2009_-_14:24:45



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Re: An IC explanation please? (for thug zombies 04/24/2010 03:38 PM CDT
Thanks, that's interesting.


Right now the Moon Mage place on the "combat pet totem pole" is the part that's sunk into the earth to lower the pole's center of gravity.
-Armifer de Dragonrealms
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