At the risk of being pessimistic, what is your actual complaint?

How does not being able to open a gate to him make the quest anything more than slightly less convenient? You're making it sound nigh-unplayable now, as if any Moon Mage who wants to learn enchanting is now out of luck because they can't take the Moon Elevator directly to him.
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>>I've helped many moon mages with the enchanting quest. Tonight I tried to help another.

>>Well, guess what!

>>We can't open moongates to Fade anymore. Some proud GM changed that.

>>Never mind this being a multi player game.

>>Never mind helping people.

You can still open gates a room or two away.

>Fine, put a quest in an area where not one person I've ever met has been "combat ready" to go. Do as you please.

Ya, it's not like Rezz is...oh, wait.

How about Infuse?

MF?

FoU?

Hrm, I'm sensing a pattern! It's almost as though...these quests are 'designed' for people of a much higher level....but the designers allowed much lower level people to attempt them with aid...

How terrible! Let us all whine and cry like 3 year olds at them!

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Coming from me, that should probably sting a little.

>>Fine, put a quest in an area where not one person I've ever met has been "combat ready" to go. Do as you please.

You can still gate them past the thugs.

>>I was able to help people through this area. Now it seems that was a bug.

You can still gate them to within a room or two of fade.

>>I am beginning to believe if there is something enjoyable about the game it gets removed.

What's been removed, exactly? You can still gate them to within a room or two of fade.

>>I've been told this before, now I'm beginning to believe it.

I'm telling you that it's not true, so now you have a data point on the other side of the argument.

>>Hrm, I'm sensing a pattern! It's almost as though...these quests are 'designed' for people of a much higher level....but the designers allowed much lower level people to attempt them with aid...

You actually don't even have to depart from the moon mage guild to do it.

Cantrip knowledge, Veiled Identity, and some other cantrips are all in places that are higher level than what is actually required to get them.

Veiled Identity laughably so since its technically achievable at something like 15th circle... its also in 'dillos.

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As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton

Ok, ok.

Mentioned many times now is gating a room or two away.

That room is the one where you fall. We both died

You all are helpful. Someday you will see what I mean.

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You do an incredible backflip with a beautiful twist rotation, gaining nearly five feet of air and landing neatly on your feet without so much as a wobble!

>You all are helpful. Someday you will see what I mean.

Just because people disagree with you does not (in fact, in several glaring instances here, the opposite is blazingly true) indicate they do not have first hand experience with this.

I have completed the FoU, Rezz, and Infusion quests, at or below 48th circle. Rezz is populated by Cinder beasts, basilisks, shadow beasts, and hierophants. FoU populated by Atik'ets, supple/muscular firecats, and Westanuryns. Infusion is populated by laches (and pointedly requires killing at least 3, and skinning them for claws), bone mastiffs, shylvic, bone golems, and bloodwraiths.

For comparison, the cleric requirements at 48th circle are below 170 in a single weapon.

All areas involve puzzles, hefty RT, a chance of falling/being stunned/being ambushed, and probably more; minimal survival requirements, but 50-100 ranks in swim/climb (50 with massive CJ, ranger spells, and other boosters). I died. I departed. I whined and swore at people in IMs. I did not demand game systems be changed or bugs revised. I did, however, ask for help, and have an entertaining time traveling with people, instead of downloading and running .questcomplete and then whining about how I had to port in several rooms away instead of direct to the finish line.

>>Is getting to Fade REALLY that much of a problem? I never once had difficulty with this. I've been there three times (twice for myself, once helping someone else find it) and I don't even HAVE moongate.

It can be hazardous. It's not without risk, even using the Moon Mage toolset, but that's kind of the point.

-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas

Protip: Dont just walk.

> I did, however, ask for help, and have an entertaining time traveling with people, instead of downloading and running .questcomplete and then whining about how I had to port in several rooms away instead of direct to the finish line.

I guess that's part of my point. Sure, make the area too hard to complete the quest, but make helping something worthwhile.

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You do an incredible backflip with a beautiful twist rotation, gaining nearly five feet of air and landing neatly on your feet without so much as a wobble!

>The auto-death fall from near Fade is infuriating. I don't know of another place in game where you just walk...and die. That is all. No comment on gate bug stuff.

It's also not auto-death...your odds are just kinda high.

-Coralin

>>It's also not auto-death...your odds are just kinda high.

Burden helps a lot with this. Never go through there with anything higher than "none".
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As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton

>>That Fade is now harder to reach probably had more to do with Guildfest, honestly. That or Lunar mana flares disrupting his calling mirror.

It might've had to do with people falling through as they walked through the moongate actually.
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As good almost kill a man as kill a good book; who kills a man kills a reasonable creature, God's image; but he who destroys a good book, kills reason itself, kills the image of God, as it were in the eye.
-John Milton

>>the only time I've set foot on some of the islands as a pc.

And as a frog?
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Malkien

Toad, not frog. And my GMly adventures have taken me to many of the islands more times than I care to really consider. I still get lost on most of them :(

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

<<I mean not only were there mummies but there used to be Thieves EVERYWHERE!

I remember that.

"I'm stealing from you on the boat. Stealing from you on the boat. Now I'm stealing from you on the galley.

Man, you mainlanders are rubes."