It's just buggy. Keep trying to open it and close it, they'll pop in there most of the time.


~Purehand

Should I rescan plugins while Stormfront is open? I have uninstalled and reinstalled this sucker like 10 times, and it still won't find the plugins.

Any suggestions? Empathing without crutch sucks.

>> Any suggestions? Empathing without crutch sucks.

Write better healing scripts. The Crutch is a piece of crap.

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>Should I rescan plugins while Stormfront is open? I have uninstalled and reinstalled this sucker like 10 times, and it still won't find the plugins.

Stormfront has to be running for Strata to work, so yes. One thing you should also do if you haven't already is switch your SF location settings to local. Strata causes problems if you have it set to server.

I don't know what else to say... as long as the plugins are in the proper place (program files/strata/plugins) it should work.

<<You may personally not like it or use it, but that doesn't make it crap. A lot of people use it and like it.>>

To be perfectly fair, though, a lot of people use AOL and like it.

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PC also stands for "Paying Customer."

>To be perfectly fair, though, a lot of people use AOL and like it.

Yeah, but AOL is crap and the Crutch isn't ;)

There are scripts for healing that are much more efficient and safer to use than the crutch.


~Arwinia

Your mind hears Netherlich thinking "Actually i was asking to buy....movin up to 50Pk for Limb Disruption and 40 for Blackfire."

>> Show me a script that lets you click on a little diagram of your patient, selecting exactly how much of which wounds you want to take.

I'm a much faster typist than I am a clicker. Perhaps for the "point and click" generation of computer users the crutch is nice, but as far as healing efficiently goes (and by healing I mean taking wounds as quickly as possible while ensuring death won't occur) there are scripts that are much better than that than the Crutch.

I admittedly only use a very simple healing script. I don't play my Empath very often anymore so I'm not terribly motivated to write a better one. So as far as examples would go you'd have to ask Arwinia.

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>>As far as the efficiency of scripts goes, you might be talking about the spell-casting part, and the crutch has never been an Empath spell-casting tool. It deals solely with the taking wounds from a patient part. Show me a script that lets you click on a little diagram of your patient, selecting exactly how much of which wounds you want to take. One mouse click will take all of a patient's wounds, or a couple of mouse clicks on the body map and you can take wounds in exactly the manner that suits you for that particular situation. Pretty efficient in my book.

Not necessary when you have a script that matches wound levels/disease/poison and takes part/half/quick as needed to keep you safe and maximize learning. i can type .script <person> and know i'm perfectly safe and the person will be completely healed in less than a minute unless it's something extreme like a rogue gate death, then I may need to run it twice. That is much quicker than clicking on all the various parts or clicking take all and hoping you don't die if you don't break the link in time.

~Arwinia

Your mind hears Netherlich thinking "Actually i was asking to buy....movin up to 50Pk for Limb Disruption and 40 for Blackfire."

>Not necessary when you have a script that matches wound levels/disease/poison and takes part/half/quick as needed to keep you safe and maximize learning. i can type .script <person> and know i'm perfectly safe and the person will be completely healed in less than a minute unless it's something extreme like a rogue gate death, then I may need to run it twice. That is much quicker than clicking on all the various parts or clicking take all and hoping you don't die if you don't break the link in time.

That does sound like an awesome script indeed. But if you are talking about a Wizard or SF script, there's no way it can have all of that knowledge (complete, accurate health status of both the empath and the patient) without issuing the HEALTH and TOUCH PATIENT commands many, many times each. Sounds like a lot of screen scroll, and a significantly less efficient approach than the Crutch employs.

FWIW using the Crutch on average I take all of a patients wounds in about 20 seconds, maybe less. Admittedly my Empath is fairly high circle and always uses the QUICK option, so most wounds transfer over in one pulse. In any event if I'm protecting a few bleeders on my body and thus need to avoid taking certain body parts, it only takes two or three seconds to click across the body map.

Whether you type commands manually, use a script, or employ a separate healing program such as the Crutch, if you don't know your limits you are going to die. That's just Empath 101 in my opinion.

>That does sound like an awesome script indeed. But if you are talking about a Wizard or SF script, there's no way it can have all of that knowledge (complete, accurate health status of both the empath and the patient) without issuing the HEALTH and TOUCH PATIENT commands many, many times each. Sounds like a lot of screen scroll, and a significantly less efficient approach than the Crutch employs.

That's what I was thinking. It would have to check the 5 vital areas on the empath and the patient for external and internal fresh wounds and scarring. That's 20 touches and 20 health checks with a TON of match strings crosschecking each other or variables being changed and rechanged. 40 commands with massive scroll per patient would be prohibitive for my use. Add in having to to that twice sometimes and having the script trying to take or check unwounded body parts, and a 'smart-script' in SF and Wizard becomes a behemoth.

Or the script works off of the supposition that the empath is woundless or nearly woundless to begin with which is not always a luxury afforded to us.

I'll switch to Genie if those checks can be programed in without massive screen scroll. I really don't know much about it.

Aside from hiccups setting up strata and compatability issues with 98, I think the crutch is the most powerful tool. There would be some features I would add - such has healing fast and a button that doesn't take the vital areas so I can heal them with more control, but other than that I don't think I could write a script that could out-perform the crutch.

Controling, down to the millisecond, how fast wounds are taken.
Keeping notes on patients - tipping patterns, rp history together etc.
Visual interface for at-a-glance diagnosis.
Ability to process multiple patients at one time and queuing up commands if there is a back-log. (okay, you can do a patient in under a minute, crutch can do 4 in under a minute)
Ability to program a lower level of healing (take all wounds below x level) on the fly.
Point and click interface for custom healings or healing around or healing down dangerous wounds.
Self tending, tending others.
A few independently progamable buttons.

I'm sure I'm missing some things. In my practical use crutch has been stable. I could care less if it looks like a mess behind the scenes. There's nothing wrong with writing your own script and using that, but don't discount crutch's obvious strengths.

~Purehand

What tool offers more for empaths?


~Purehand

>I'll switch to Genie if those checks can be programed in without massive screen scroll. I really don't know much about it.

From what I understand of how triggers work, you could accomplish this in a fairly straightforward manner. Set some triggers to watch for the wound messaging when you touch someone, and then use that to set some variables. I don't use Genie because A) I already spend enough money on DR and I don't need to spend any more, and B) it doesn't currently permit the use of background colors for highlights. Other than that it's supposed to be awesome, a scripter's dream. You still wouldn't get the graphical interface of the Crutch though.

>From what I understand of how triggers work, you could accomplish this in a fairly straightforward manner. Set some triggers to watch for the wound messaging when you touch someone, and then use that to set some variables.

Well, it isn't quite so simple because of the way the text is displayed. You can only capture one line of text at a time, and the relevant info is on two lines. However, I realized I could do it with 2 variables. I don't think anyone else has even tried because no one actively heals people in TF. But the method does work. Pretty cool, IMO.

>I don't think anyone else has even tried because no one actively heals people in TF.

When TF was still relatively new (and I still played there) Mali ran an auto healer script. Getting healed by her when she was AFK wasn't exactly fast though, but I also don't recall her having to touch a ton of times either. Then again it's been a long time.

Norm

>When TF was still relatively new (and I still played there) Mali ran an auto healer script. Getting healed by her when she was AFK wasn't exactly fast though, but I also don't recall her having to touch a ton of times either. Then again it's been a long time.

You misunderstood me. Many people run healing scripts AFK 24/7. No one actively heals ATK. And you don't need a complicated script to heal all wounds without much touching, just try to take wounds whether they exist or not. Every healing script I've seen does this. The more advanced ones take every wound at half if any single wound is devestating. What I am talking about is more complicated.

" >Need a copy of that version? "

While your at I would love to see this script that outdoes the Crutch

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If I had the energy to be a real empath and to actually heal, I would actually sit down and write an indepth script to heal someone. That said, matching wound levels/health levels could be something like this:

I don't actually know if this would work, but it's what I have in my mind currently [excuse messaging, but i'm at work and pulling this off the top of my head].
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action setvariable self.level.chest 2 when ^You have.*faint scuffing rah rah rah along the chest area
action setvariable self.level.chest 4 when ^You have.*cuts and bruises
action setvariable self.level.chest 9 when ^You have.*gaping holes in the chest
[and this ad nauseum for all self wound levels]

action setvariable patient.chest 2 when External Wounds: some faint scuffing rah rah rah along the chest area
action setvariable patient.level 9 when External Wounds: gaping holes in the chest area
[and this ad nauseum for all patient wound messaging]

Start:
pause .5
put touch $1
pause
if %self.level.chest + %patient.level.chest <= 13 then put take $1 chest quick
if %self.level.chest + %patient.level.chest > 13 then gosub HEAL.CHEST
if %self.level.chest + %patient.level.head <= 13 then put take $1 chest quick
if %self.level.chest + %patient.level.head > 13 then gosub HEAL.HEAD
[again, ad nauseum]

HEAL.CHEST:
pause .5
put prep hw
pause .5
put harn 5
gosub rt.wait
put cast chest
pause .5
put prep hs
pause .5
put harn 5
gosub rt.wait
put cast chest
pause .5
return
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Yeah...something like that. I'm sure if you put that into a script as is, you would get errors up the wazoo. But making a script to trump crutch can be done, it's just a matter of someone caring enough to actually do it that is key. I'm not going to bash on the crutch, because seriously, Kitrinx put in a lot of work to make that program and then offered it to the general population for free. Don't bash it if you can't do it. And if you can do it, then why not just do it instead of bashing it? And for an AFK empath script, there are currently 2 out there that are awesome. One is Gret's empath.bot script and the other is Gwyd's auto-healing script that doesn't let the empath die (generally).

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Renegade Empath Raudhan just arrived.

A cutthroat gasps, "I can't get UP!"

You begin to lecture Reexa on the proper use of the brawling skill.
You cackle!
You strike a heroic pose.

The problem with that method is that you can't see some internal injuries or external scars that way. You need to start out clean and then track what you heal for maximum precision. Like this:

action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable bodypart $1 when ^Wounds to the (\w+):
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable bodypart $1.$2 when ^Wounds to the (\w+)\s(\w+):
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable patient.%bodypart.$1.$2 1 when ^\s\s(\w+) (\w+): [\w ]+ -- insignificant
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable patient.%bodypart.$1.$2 2 when ^\s\s(\w+) (\w+): [\w ]+ -- negligible
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable patient.%bodypart.$1.$2 3 when ^\s\s(\w+) (\w+): [\w ]+ -- minor
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable patient.%bodypart.$1.$2 4 when ^\s\s(\w+) (\w+): [\w ]+ -- more than minor
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable patient.%bodypart.$1.$2 5 when ^\s\s(\w+) (\w+): [\w ]+ -- harmful
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable patient.%bodypart.$1.$2 6 when ^\s\s(\w+) (\w+): [\w ]+ -- very harmful
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable patient.%bodypart.$1.$2 7 when ^\s\s(\w+) (\w+): [\w ]+ -- damaging
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable patient.%bodypart.$1.$2 8 when ^\s\s(\w+) (\w+): [\w ]+ -- very damaging
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable patient.%bodypart.$1.$2 9 when ^\s\s(\w+) (\w+): [\w ]+ -- severe
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable patient.%bodypart.$1.$2 10 when ^\s\s(\w+) (\w+): [\w ]+ -- very severe
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable patient.%bodypart.$1.$2 11 when ^\s\s(\w+) (\w+): [\w ]+ -- devastating
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable patient.%bodypart.$1.$2 12 when ^\s\s(\w+) (\w+): [\w ]+ -- very devastating
action instant (wound.grabber) setvariable patient.%bodypart.$1.$2 13 when ^\s\s(\w+) (\w+): [\w ]+ -- useless

> If you've got a large number of triggers set, does it slow things down much?

If Genie doesn't have to show you what the triggers are, it speeds right through them. If you have on the "debug" aspect which shows you all the information going on behind the screen, the SET.ACTIONS part can take a long time. So generally, it does not slow you down, unless you are trying to fix something.

My typical SET.ACTIONS piece has about 120-130 lines for a combat script.

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Renegade Empath Raudhan just arrived.

A cutthroat gasps, "I can't get UP!"

You begin to lecture Reexa on the proper use of the brawling skill.
You cackle!
You strike a heroic pose.