Even though I wear a "Wound Thief" button, I would agree.

Unless its just to make Kaeta mad, I ask.

I don't know why, but you're right, there's an increase in the number of people who will just touch and start to heal you as soon as you walk into the Empath guild. They are usually <10th circle.

Since I don't wear an Empath title its mildly amusing/mean to just let them...heh.

-Desperado Clemency Apollonia, Vagrant of Elanthia

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>It is good practice to ask if someone wants to be healed.

Very true. It is also good practice to ask if someone will heal you if you want to be healed, as well. I think with all the touch-as-you-enter Empaths healing everyone, people are forgetting to ask when they want healed - they just assume that someone will heal them as soon as they walk through the door and if they don't - then no one is willing to heal them.

rant

Case in point: For the past few days - I've been sitting in the Infirmary - I've seen more people come in, stand there for a few minutes, eat everything in the cabinet and leave, or worse - if there's not much in the cabinet - I'm asked if I could spare a bite of an herb. This is with an empath title up. I find that more insulting, I think. Just because I don't touch you the second you walk in, doesn't mean I'm not healing, just say something!

/rant

~Chris

I agree with the new way patients are dealing with the new Empaths. It is because alot of older Empaths have gone the way of power walking, which to us was a blessing way back but in a way has semi-backfired on us. Now when I sit in the Main hall, I'll be sitting there with five Empath students, and every one of them will sometimes zombie out. I've had people come in, ask for a heal, and then I've whispered to them to wait five minutes so I can see if any of the other empaths will jump (unless it is critical). Nothing. Zombie Empaths all listening to me rant about teaching. Then I jump on another character and I get Empaths touching me and trying to heal me when I haven't even asked.

There is no happy medium, and from both stand points, it disgusts me. Call me old fashioned, but think of being an Empath like being a Nurse/Doctor/Paramedic-Neither of them can actually help you unless you A. Give consent, or B. Are too hurt to make that decision on your own. On the same token any person would be pissed off if they went to get help from a Nurse/Doctor/Paramedic and when they looked like they were working, they just fell asleep with their eyes open.


>>I've seen more people come in, stand there for a few minutes, eat everything in the cabinet and leave, or worse - if there's not much in the cabinet<<

Tha cabinet since I've been back, has been another pet peeve I've developed. Don't even get me started on that rant.

~Villya

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I'm not sure that titles matter much to wound thieves. I have had my Empath healed without permission, even though he always wears his Empath title. If people are going to be rude enough to heal without asking they generally don't bother looking at the patient, either.

In my experience boats are the most common place for this to happen. Bleed on a boat and an Empath will jump out of hiding and grab the bleeder. The last time it happened I let the empath completely heal me up, including scars. Then I touched her and took the bleeder back leaving the scars and non-bleeders for her to deal with.

>>Playing a blunt character comes in handy.

What we need is a DRAG synonym verb that messages you yanking on the person's ear. That way, everyone knows the empath is in trouble but isn't going to get hacked down. For grins and giggles, maybe everyone else sees the empath doing the whole "ow, ow, ow, ow!" thing as they leave/enter.

J'Lo, I'm a ranger.. I'd believe anything.....
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<<Demeanor is your friend.>>

I was definitely thinking, huh, how come my non-Empath characters don't get randomly healed?

And realized that it was because the majority of them have a reserved demeanor. :)

~Laril, who just kind of hates the fuzzy-wuzzy positive demeanor messaging.

It's only consent if you tell them to stop and they don't.

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Idon: "Hey, is it just me, or does this new dock here look a little off?"
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I would personally equate healing someone's bleeder without asking first a form of stealing. If they took the time to get one and want to keep it it is most annoying to have it taken away.

<< So, before you argue about consent, or do the I will bring out my other character hunt you down and kill you for doing that, read the rules on consent. doing so is listed as abuse and is reportable,

Wouldn't bringing out another character to hunt down someone and kill them be a policy violation?

Good point Villya. I've noticed plenty of Empaths getting discouraged from the get-go. It's tough. I should know, starting over as an Empath 3-4 times now.

I try to do what I can to let them heal the externals of a patient, and I'll grab everything else, but people are so bloody impatient nowadays. If you don't speed-heal them, they get discouraged and leave. Ugh.

I've found teaching young empaths empathy is really helpful in getting it moving for them.

I am still up in the air about the repercussions of LINK though? Someone told me once that it has unknown consequences.

-Desperado Clemency Apollonia, Vagrant of Elanthia

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Link has negative repercussions stemming back to its initial release, which was about as scandalous as the shift release. And, like shift, there are no negative repercussions that are hard coded into the system.

Shaunn

Sorry the reply has been a little delayed. OOC: Just got off a Fire Station shift yay!

>>The youngins only do it because they don't know better, Villy... time to open a big can of whuparse in there.<<

If I'm on my Empath and I see it, I definately say something. However, when I'm on another character the RP is different, and their story is different, which is why I choose not you use demeanor changes unless I absolutely have too. But if I'm on Vill, and I see them doing that, I do wipe some arse.

>>I would personally equate healing someone's bleeder without asking first a form of stealing.<<

I wouldn't call it stealing, but it is really rude.

And another thing...I don't know who/what/or why, but is there any way we can change the cabinet in the Empath guild so that a person can only put so much of ONE thing in there? I have cleaned out that cabinet three times of rediculous amounts of Georin grass that leaves no room for any other herbs, and then I go ahead and fill it with whatever I can forage. It is just retarded, the cabinet in there is becoming what the shelf use to be; a trash bin.

~Villya

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Termian says, "I'm too wirey"
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Termian says, "wouldn't make a good meal"
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Farman says, "gnome legs in bechamel sauce"
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Farman licks his lips.
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>>I'm almost tempted to stick on a Protector or a weapons title on my Empath and see if I can get the same people to randomly heal me and gain nothing out of it.

Happens to me all the time. I don't tell them until they're finished and trying to figure out why their empathy wasn't moving.

~Arwinia

Thieves will continue to be dominated by the awesome power of the perceive health ability - that which causes rivers to dry up, babies to cry, and the earth to shake.
Stand back mortal, lest ye health be perceived.
-Ssra

I will say first of all that my empath isn't very old training wise, but I've always made a point of asking a patient before taking their wounds. It's generally just rude not to.

One of the things that I've encountered is people stealing patients, I don't know if this is because they don't know any better or not but it is done by empaths of a variety of ages and is very, very annoying. Has anyone else encountered this regularly?

It's also awkward because (especially if they are older than me) I feel some what out of place saying anything about it because the aim is to heal the patient, and it gets the job done quicker, but it's my empathy experiance and tips they're taking, as well as it being very dis-heartening when you need empathy heavily to circle and it makes gaining the ranks so much harder.

I've always hated the term "stealing patients". In all my years I've never encountered an Empath that willingly and purposefully pounced on patients one right after the other. What I have seen are Empaths that honestly haven't seen another Empath touch the patient first, especially in a triage situation.

There will always be more patients. If someone accidentally heals someone you touched first, let it go. If they do it repeatedly, then you have a problem and should certainly say something.


Doctor Kerrian Runegazer
Citizen of Ilithi

There is at least one empath who will take everyone's wounds without asking, though an announcement is at least made beforehand. It won't matter if you have first-touch rights or not, either.

Then there are a bunch of empaths who are probably using some sort of superscript or the Crutch and completely disregard the conversations happening. I can nod at someone and announce to the room at large I'll help this person, but if one of these people gets a touch in during that time they claim I'm stealing patients.

J'Lo, I'm a ranger.. I'd believe anything.....
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<<Yeah, obviously again you don't hang around the Crossing Main Hall that much, I've seen a few Empaths do that and make sure NO ONE ELSE gets any patients.>>

Villya, that's because Kerrian is one of them who steals patients!
JK!!! But Kerrian, you remember Peachez (the original player of)? She would do that, and was quite blatantly nasty about it if she were pointed out for it. She was one who just didn't care.

'Lint

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