Definitely interesting. Only played with the second half so far, somewhat amazed Asketi didn't smite my character horribly for my failures, though the entire falling to ones knees seems awfully similar to what I was doing to the apes I was trying it out on.

Cant wait to play with this

I'm not sure if it's too soon after release, but anyone post details? I can't learn it yet (circle 18/19), and it's killing me.

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>The requirements are 20th circle and 20 wisdom. Now you'll think I set them so to spite you. :(

I did already, don't worry!

At least I'm moderately close, possibly I'll make it this weekend if I work hard. Though 20 wisdom might be iffy. Many thanks for not making that aspect PAFO Grejuva.

Looking forward to playing with it now, since it's not 400th circle.

You're easily my 3rd or 4th favorite cleric GM at the moment man! (<3)

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And yes, that was a tease. Please don't go hulk on me. Much cleric-love to you and everyone else involved in this. Though getting anything out pre-3 is impressive.

Based on someone's explanation of events, is it intentional or oversight that you can sacrifice a person in a justice zone?

Devotion based or not, it seems... surprising that society is kinda okay with it, hah.

>IC, though, considering it was Khruek who came up with it though, its about what she'd expected. Although she considers some of the names that one can ask him about meaningless babble <those characters never appeared in plat, nor did Khurek journey to Shard or come into contact with Sothavi plat-side.>

Let. It. Go.

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>>Society is not okay with it. Where exactly did this happen? The sacrifice I watched had the cleric properly charged with Forbidden Practices.

It was Kydosha over in Plat. I didn't realize there was a charge associated with it, because when I saw the wanted board shortly after it was still blank. I guess she surrendered and paid rather quickly while playing ignorant in the OOC chatter we had asking about if it caused a crime or not. My bad for working with bad information, sorry about that!

<Lying on an altar will mean that you are willing to be sacrificed to the gods! Any Cleric you CONSENT will be able to kill you.>

the Killing part isn't the part I'm referring to.

I'm referring to the fact that it takes ALL Of the sacrificees favors.


"we're doing it for the good of mankind," said the philosophers of murder, waiting for the rest of the world to congratulate them"-Elie Wiesel <the gates of the forest>

Any further Plat discussion will be nuked with extreme prejudice. Take the slap fight back to the Plat forums where they belong.

-Armifer
"In our days truth is taken to result from the effacing of the living man behind the mathematical structures that think themselves out in him, rather than he be thinking them." - Emmanuel Levinas

<<Ritual sacrifice seems like something society would frown upon, religious or otherwise>>

What I said in chat bears repeating. Due to the politics involved of the major source of gods/religion/etc in society, the Temple would tend to protect its adherents while they indulge even in dark types of rites, particularly if they are sanctioned by the gods themselves.

Hence when someone died to torture under the Inquisition in one of the TEmple's dungeons even though the Temple itself is considered a "justice zone", the authorities tended to look the other way.

Khurek himself was never arrested for wielding his axe. Particularly when he did so upon necromancers, or even upon suspects who were not actual necromancers. In the frenzy of anti-necromancer-hatred, much is overlooked, if it is being done by the "good" guys.












"we're doing it for the good of mankind," said the philosophers of murder, waiting for the rest of the world to congratulate them"-Elie Wiesel <the gates of the forest>

Awesome! I think I'll have to wait until the sacrificial animals are released, since I doubt anyone will be offering themselves up for death in this manner unless they're into that sort of thing. Le sigh.

<<Any young folks want to earn a couple plat>>
there is a cap on how young. you can't sacrifice anyone below a certain circle.

It just seems to me that taking all your favors away is wrong thing IC, even for a Dark god, to do. Sure, take your life, but bleeding off all your favors if you're willing to die for a god? Strange. I can see a Demon doing such, and I can Definately see a overtones of history of how the dragon priests used to sacrifice to the World Dragon, in the ritual itself ... but a god? Usually gods in most mythologies, and in major religions, promise all sorts of "good" things for their "martyrs" "sacrificial lambs", etc.

That said, I wonder what is done in the case of an older character that already has no favors... such as a necromancer :-). That I can't experiment with <my cleric is on the same account as the necro, nor would my necro be likely to do such unless granted redemption thereby...and since the ritual itself comes from the Temple - highly unlikely. :-)



"we're doing it for the good of mankind," said the philosophers of murder, waiting for the rest of the world to congratulate them"-Elie Wiesel <the gates of the forest>

The sacrifice attack is very cool (on critters), but I'm wondering if that works on players. Guess I will wait and see.

are there any plans on regulating a difference between , Good vs. Evil Sacrifices in the upcoming Cleric systems concerning deities ?

>3) Being sacrificed is the ultimate purification.

Is there some advantage to it or is it for an RP benefit? If person sacrifice has to be done willingly and it comes at the cost of all favors, it seems rather pricy to do it just for fun.

So someone only loses all their favors if they willingly sacrifice themselves. If the person is unwilling, do they keep their favors? Also, is it true that you will lose devotion if you try to sacrifice something or someone that is of a lower circle?

Also, seriously, best verb EVER!! Once things get a little more defined with it, I think it's gonna give clerics who are interested a chance to better define themselves as light or dark clerics. And, of course, the added bonus of laying someone on an altar and stabbing them in the chest. Thats always a bonus.

>About the other part, I should've mentioned that while Animal Sacrifice is supported, the actual sacrificial animals aren't available yet. You can only do Combat Sacrifice and Person Sacrifice right now.

GM Grejuva



Is this something that's coming...eventually?

Oh and since we're talking about communes...are we ever going to get rid of the need for the material components for usage? Or like, get some kind of more friendly way of storing all the necessary bits and bobs for communes and rituals?