Barbarian verbs. Those things that, if we're being frank, feel a bit childish.

I'm hoping this isn't a big development ask but could we have them attached to another verb to turn them off (and on, for those who want them)? Maybe BARB?

Barring that, could we simply have them removed?

Because they haven't lined up to the identity of the Guild for almost 15 years now. Barbarians started out with that uncivilized identity as the broad guild identity, but that stopped being the complete identity of the guild 'roundabout 2003. Everything about the current verb set represents a lack of self control, which is ridiculous when Barbarians are supposed to be masters of self control.

With that in mind, (and development being scarce), some suggested replacements if someone wants to be a hero:

KATA. I feel like KATA has been on the ask list for over a decade at this point. Maybe two. With your held weapon the Barbarian makes a weapon type appropriate display (like DANCE but specific to Barbarians). Check against appropriate mastery or weapon skill (it doesn't matter to most Barbs anyway, I'd wager). Skill breaks seem likely at 50/100/200/350/500/750/1000/1300/1600/1750 but I'd like to see it modified appropriately by Strength, Agility, and Discipline. There has to be someone willing to tackle this. I'll write all of the kata fluff myself if that's what it takes at this point. Seriously, if someone wants to take this on and wants creative help, email me.

SIGN (ADVANCE (TARGET)|RETREAT|MOVE (DIRECTION)|FLEE) is normally just fluffy but if the Barbarian is grouped, it can accomplish things.
I feel like ADVANCE seems self-explanatory, but on a successful Expertise check against the target it sets it as the default advancing target for their group. Something like: Barbarian chops their (weapon/hand) at a (critter), marking it as the next target.
Retreat would allow the Barbarian to force the group to retreat using the Barbarian's skills and attributes instead of their own; useful for babysitting in an invasion, for example. Something like: Barbarian whirls their (weapon/hand) over their head, signaling retreat.
Move is actually self-explanatory, the Barbarian simply points out a direction but in a Barbarian-appropriate way: Barbarian gestures to the (direction) with their (weapon/hand) as they move in that direction.
FLEE would let the Barbarian make an Athletics check for their entire group to flee. Caveats: Paladins and Barbarians wouldn't flee and this is the sort of ability that should require permission from the affected. So maybe it throws up a prompt the group can accept or decline. Sort of a more advanced version of RETREAT.

(SIGN is already in the game and would preempt SIGNAL, hence SIGN.)

Well, they're badly written in general.

They tell, not show, me what to think about the Barbarian. That's bad.

But yes, disgusting grunting and odious belching are two key ones. But I also think the handshakes aren't necessarily representative of the guild now as opposed to the guild in 1997.

I think HAKAs are a fine idea, probably makes sense to try those on for size as well.

Most of the roleplay verbs have been around since the game's launch, and reflect the initial "me iz Barb!" mentality that can be found in stuff like belch/grunt and https://elanthipedia.play.net/Barbarian_Spell_Book,_The.

They are intentionally infantile, which is fine. I don't agree with removing them from the game, but...

>Self control isn't one of them...berserk much? Tapping into our inner fire doesn't mean we are self controlled.

This isn't accurate. We have a whole path now for more sophisticated prowess (Predator path), and messaging like Duelist mastery (" An expert at calculated planning and focus, the Duelist is a master at combat when the stakes are highest.."). Forms reflect very refined martial acuity, and meditations bring to mind (no pun intended) severe introspection and merging of mind and body into a singular martial consciousness. We can dual wield.

Basically, Barbarians aren't just the D&D berserks in Dragonrealms, they are also the de facto warrior class, and it would be nice to have some verbs like katas (martial training exercises to focus the mind) or hakas (war dance) to reflect this stuff.

>You've made some good points about the D&D barbarian vs. warrior (fighter) concept. However, it seems what you really are asking for is more RP verbs that lean towards the finesse fighter barb. I can get behind that. I may have misunderstood from the first post where it appeared you wanted to rewrite ALL the barb verbs to be finesse as opposed to just adding new ones only. I agree there is room for both.

OP (Futility) did want the old verbs deleted, which doesn't make much sense to me, I agree with you. I just think there is precedent and it's time to get some more lore going.

1) I always felt it was silly that so many "gross" verbs were restricted to Barbarians.
2) It feels like the better solution to moving people's perception away from Barbarians being gross farty beasts is to expand the types of actions that represent what a Barbarian can be, so any specific guild-specific action isn't an implicit indication of what the guild should be.

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>Again, the verb modifications themselves are poorly written and out of line with the current standards.

Have you been to one of the bonfires recently? Some people playing their Gor'Tog Barbarians like those verbs a lot.

I'm with you, I like playing as a seasoned and battle-honed warrior instead of a belching nitwit, but I don't think we need to turn off verbs like we are hotfixing bugs.