Hello friend! Welcome back.

- We're not a joke guild. I agree it's depressing we haven't gotten development in many years, but what's funny is that Barbarians were OP as heck back in 2.0. Subsequent releases over the years, like nerfing disablers and magic 3.0 and capping BMR, have gradually made what Barbs do less and less special, but we're still not a "joke guild." We're middle of the pack. Real joke guilds were Traders before magic and Paladins before Armifer started doing some good work on them in 2018, I'm not sure there's a guild in the game anymore that's actually a joke.

- All max-level characters (or at least most of them) sell. I can name dozens of HLCs over the years and maybe like 3-4 who never sold, it's not unique to Barbs. These tend to be power gamers who enjoy the metagame of building scripts and maximizing efficiency, watching the numbers climb ever higher. Now we've reached a point where the skillcap is hard-coded and we can't physically go any higher, really, so they sell and leave. It happens. If you want to last long-term in this game, you need to find fun like roleplay.

- Guild gurus don't really exist anymore. To use the example above, Armifer was the "moon mage guild guru" but he hasn't done heavy work on moonies in years iirc. Instead he's been doing great stuff like releasing Trader magic, Smite and glyph rewrites for Paladins, etc. Simu's development headcount is just too low these days to have specific GMS dedicated to specific guilds. They just develop what they have ideas for, think needs developing, etc.

- Not much of a future in sight. Oh boy, yeah, honestly you're right about this one. Someone vaguely mentioned that a Warstomp rewrite was on the horizon, like it was being conceptually QC'ed, but that's about it. This is my one big complaint. I don't think we're a joke guild or a dead guild, but I'm not going to pretend like I'm happy. We used to be a top-tier guild, the bad boys/girls everyone complained about, and now we're just kinda mediocre, and nothing we do outside magic barriers (which themselves aren't even that OP) is particularly special.

This guild really needs a conceptual rewrite from the ground-up. We need some kind of alpha strike, we need something like instant-leap-to-melee or a pulsing aura that prevents retreat, the barrier rewrite that's been discussed for years needs to happen and our barriers reviewed to make them strong enough for mages to complain about again... a bunch of stuff.

Thanks Armifer, even hearing someone - especially you - verbally acknowledge that Barbarians need help is actually the biggest development news this guild has gotten in some while.

While I have your ear momentarily, it's not a matter of stale development. Core guild identity needs some real help. Our identity used to be OP combat buffs (now capped to be in line with all guilds), OP disablers (remember when immobilize set evasion to 0? Yeah, I know you loved that!), and magic resistance (mostly passive, which is now gone, and the litany of magic barriers we have really don't mage mages sweat much). On top of that the penalty for being an NMU has steadily increased, sorcery is now ubiquitous and awesome.

Couple suggestions for quick-ish releases that don't involve a complete rewrite that would seriously help: damage-dealing and missile-range Warstomp based on Expertise that works like heavy TM (also with cooldown), conceptual Serenity rework (take away IF hits and strengthen the barrier, if that means roars need to be completely disabled vs. heavily penalized, so be it), expensive esoteric berserk that draws targets to melee or heavily contests attempts to retreat so melee combat can be hypothetically meaningful.

Thanks for your thoughts Armifer

As of 4/19/2020 They are not working on anything for us. Despite having posts from GMs about post thief rework like adjustments to the guild, mention of a combo system or something to make us less than attack commanders, no adjustments to the bad slot costings, no fixing of Mastery skills that do nothing, nothing on the nonexistent path system, no warstomp that was mentioned not long ago, no offensive abilities/alpha strike, no reworking of the path trees themselves to make them more accessible, tied for last with least amount of skills for TDP generation, and to top if all off current MT trends are relying on Arcana to use new items effectively, requiring Barbarians to learn a Magic skill to keep up with the power creep.


Guild isn't dead only because of anti-magic barriers. Once this barrier review thing hits us, the guild is going to be in a laughable state.


If you want to enjoy DR to the fullest, just roll a Cleric. Their Oathborn is better weapon buff than our Dragon anyhow.

A couple of fixes are sorely needed.
Get rid of guild masters sending barbarians on dancing quests that haven't existed for many years.
Open up our store.
Convert a couple of the old forge buildings that are still around to new forges.

I still say allowing us to manage our own IF be choosing how many forms and meditations we want to run at once would be a good move in the right direction. The five form (make it so you can't push the IF regen hash below 10% or something) and three meditation (minus Staunch and Dispel) max limit is just plain stupid, and no other guild faces these restraints. Also, we have to be able to stop individual berserks and meditations instead of all or nothing. It's an IF tanker when you need to swap out stuff for low to mid level barbs.

Rhadyn da Dwarb - Blood for fire!

Barbarian Guild Suggestions
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