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>>when I started multi was literally impossible to learn and when they finally switched it over alot of the older folks were in bad shape inthat department. Not that mine isn't caught up well now, but its not myhighest. however I've started new characters and its ridiculous how easy Multi is to learn and it can easily be your highest combat skill well into your 40's and if you want to keep it that way its not that hard.
What Celestiaa said.
Brabs
It's fascinating, though, how much like an oral culture this can be when it's carried out entirely in text.--GM Natala
BARIEN
GORDONS7
Re: Small favor
10/22/2004 06:32 PM CDT
Speaking of goals, I'm still plugging away at my survival one. 60 ranks away now from having my top 10 survivals at 100 ranks each. Should have it done once I circle 40th. Then I may try to get the rest of my lores over 100, or go back to working all the weapons. Either way, while circling is nice, I'm more of a goal driven sort. Give me a goal that's attainable and I'll plow my way to it, come the void or high water.
Maulem~
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VROTSOSJ
Re: Small favor
10/22/2004 08:27 PM CDT
You have enough 2nd Lore (Mechanical Lore) for 176th circle, and need 1 rank for 177th.
You have enough 1st Lore (Appraisal) for 179th circle, and need 2 ranks for 180th.
Yay, lore.
I am --- Navak
You have enough 1st Lore (Appraisal) for 179th circle, and need 2 ranks for 180th.
Yay, lore.
I am --- Navak
LAUGHINGGOD
Re: Small favor
10/22/2004 10:05 PM CDT
>>Lore? This is a barbarian board. I have both of our required lore ranks.
Got mine to about 120th or 130th at least.
Lore Average: 45 (Total: 182 in 4 included skills)
That's nuff for 99 in Primary lore (Appraisal) and 129 for Secondary (Mechanical lore). Course, I'm only 12th circle, but I'm nutty about lore...I think I was a bard in a past life ::winks::
Kalkomar Axebiter
Staan Grimis
Got mine to about 120th or 130th at least.
Lore Average: 45 (Total: 182 in 4 included skills)
That's nuff for 99 in Primary lore (Appraisal) and 129 for Secondary (Mechanical lore). Course, I'm only 12th circle, but I'm nutty about lore...I think I was a bard in a past life ::winks::
Kalkomar Axebiter
Staan Grimis
OLESH
Re: Small favor
10/22/2004 11:49 PM CDT
Correct. This is a character that I started training almost exactly 54 weeks ago, when I'd decided to start over from the ground up. I had planned to be 50th by the summer, but school interfered and I'm still only 45th. Whenever I go into combat, before focusing on anything else - weapons, armor, whatever - I make sure to lock my multi as quick as possible. Owing to the way multi learning works, having a higher multi is actually a hindrance; I can't safely lock multi, since a multi situation that will teach me will overwhelm my lower defenses. So it's stayed approximately 15-20 ranks over my defenses and weapons.
I do know that back in the day, multi was very difficult to learn. However, it also didn't have the same debilitating effects it does now.
"Perhaps the angel world might even be set up with ectoplasm causally dependent on physical properties, so that wombat copulation on the physical plane sometimes gives rise to baby ectoplasmic wombats on the nonphysical plane." - David J. Chalmers
I do know that back in the day, multi was very difficult to learn. However, it also didn't have the same debilitating effects it does now.
"Perhaps the angel world might even be set up with ectoplasm causally dependent on physical properties, so that wombat copulation on the physical plane sometimes gives rise to baby ectoplasmic wombats on the nonphysical plane." - David J. Chalmers
ZIRITH
Re: Small favor
10/23/2004 12:28 AM CDT
<<I haven't circled in forever Have gained over 1200 Tdps since my last circle and really dont need more concetration. When I circle I circle.
What's the point in that? Why not just go circle, I mean if yer fighting and actually doing stuff, you're going to get what you need to circle every so often, why not just go circle?
-Z-
Times change, people don't.
What's the point in that? Why not just go circle, I mean if yer fighting and actually doing stuff, you're going to get what you need to circle every so often, why not just go circle?
-Z-
Times change, people don't.
HELLCAT
Re: Small favor
10/23/2004 12:34 AM CDT
Cause they don't want to?
___
Violence does not lead to more violence.
The truth is that ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more death. However fully thought through, well executed violence never leads to more violence because afterwards, the other guys are all dead.
___
Violence does not lead to more violence.
The truth is that ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more death. However fully thought through, well executed violence never leads to more violence because afterwards, the other guys are all dead.
ZIRITH
Re: Small favor
10/23/2004 12:47 AM CDT
Whats the point of not circling when you can? Wanting to spar the little guys or RP?
-Z-
Times change, people don't.
-Z-
Times change, people don't.
ALLGUILDS
Re: Small favor
10/23/2004 02:03 AM CDT
I often wait to circle after I am 5 or 7 circles behind where I could be. Is there a point? Not really. I sometimes like to stand there and be congratulated again and again... sometimes I like to see 1000+ TDPs instead of 150... and sometimes I just don't have any reason to circle. It is not a requirement.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
~Herm Albright
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
~Herm Albright
WAKE12
Re: Small favor
10/23/2004 03:59 AM CDT
>What's the point in that? Why not just go circle, I mean if yer fighting and actually doing stuff, you're going to get what you need to circle every so often, why not just go circle?
I don't have the requirements for my next circle.
Celestica moves a stone mortar labeled "NotCelestiaa" to his right hand.
You tap a hollow ram's horn labeled "NotCelestica" that you are wearing.
* Celestiaa was just struck down!
* Celestica was just struck down!
* Celesi was just struck down!
I don't have the requirements for my next circle.
Celestica moves a stone mortar labeled "NotCelestiaa" to his right hand.
You tap a hollow ram's horn labeled "NotCelestica" that you are wearing.
* Celestiaa was just struck down!
* Celestica was just struck down!
* Celesi was just struck down!
FULTONJ1
Re: Small favor
10/23/2004 09:27 AM CDT
<<Whats the point of not circling when you can? Wanting to spar the little guys or RP?
What's the point in worrying about how other people play their characters?
If they don't want to circle, they don't have to circle.
Shrug
Trebber
What's the point in worrying about how other people play their characters?
If they don't want to circle, they don't have to circle.
Shrug
Trebber
DIVINEWIND
Re: Small favor
10/24/2004 08:49 AM CDT
Am I the only one who doesn't train lores AND doesn't care?
>exp lore all
Showing lore skills at or above rank 0.
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning
Scholarship: 85 15% clear Mechanical Lore: 105 54% clear
Musical Theory: 0 00% clear Appraisal: 156 61% thoughtful
Teaching: 121 34% clear Trading: 0 44% clear
Animal Lore: 0 00% clear Percussions: 0 00% clear
Strings: 0 00% clear Winds: 41 15% clear
Vocals: 8 38% clear Empathy: 0 00% clear
Astrology: 0 00% clear
Heh, I used to think I was weird with that kinda teaching at 60+... Hehe notice appraisal is thoughtful? Every once in a blue moon I remember to appraise critters.
-G, player thereof
---
Messenger Boy: The Thessalonian you're fighting, he's the biggest man I've ever seen. I wouldn't want to fight him.
Achilles: That is why no one will remember your name.
>exp lore all
Showing lore skills at or above rank 0.
SKILL: Rank/Percent towards next rank/Amount learning
Scholarship: 85 15% clear Mechanical Lore: 105 54% clear
Musical Theory: 0 00% clear Appraisal: 156 61% thoughtful
Teaching: 121 34% clear Trading: 0 44% clear
Animal Lore: 0 00% clear Percussions: 0 00% clear
Strings: 0 00% clear Winds: 41 15% clear
Vocals: 8 38% clear Empathy: 0 00% clear
Astrology: 0 00% clear
Heh, I used to think I was weird with that kinda teaching at 60+... Hehe notice appraisal is thoughtful? Every once in a blue moon I remember to appraise critters.
-G, player thereof
---
Messenger Boy: The Thessalonian you're fighting, he's the biggest man I've ever seen. I wouldn't want to fight him.
Achilles: That is why no one will remember your name.
MARTINCOTY77
Re: Small favor
10/24/2004 10:24 AM CDT
<<Either way, while circling is nice, I'm more of a goal driven sort. Give me a goal that's attainable and I'll plow my way to it, come the void or high water.
I am the exact same way Maulem.....and I have really weird goals for a Barb.
You have enough 1st Lore (Appraisal) for 173rd circle, and need 2 ranks for 174th.
You have enough 2nd Lore (Mechanical Lore) for 187th circle, and need 1 rank for 188th.
Codiax.
Crowd Control:
You've gained a new rank in your ability to fight multiple opponents.
I am the exact same way Maulem.....and I have really weird goals for a Barb.
You have enough 1st Lore (Appraisal) for 173rd circle, and need 2 ranks for 174th.
You have enough 2nd Lore (Mechanical Lore) for 187th circle, and need 1 rank for 188th.
Codiax.
Crowd Control:
You've gained a new rank in your ability to fight multiple opponents.
MARTINCOTY77
Re: Small favor
10/24/2004 10:31 AM CDT
<<Am I the only one who doesn't train lores AND doesn't care?
I do train Appraisal and Mech usually. I used to train musical lore for roar recovery, until they made it so I have to sing to others(vocal lore) My voice is too bad for that.
Codiax.
Crowd Control:
You've gained a new rank in your ability to fight multiple opponents.
I do train Appraisal and Mech usually. I used to train musical lore for roar recovery, until they made it so I have to sing to others(vocal lore) My voice is too bad for that.
Codiax.
Crowd Control:
You've gained a new rank in your ability to fight multiple opponents.
MARGASH
Re: Small favor
10/24/2004 05:55 PM CDT
>You'd have to have some pretty sick habitual activities to get 25 ranks hide, 18 longbow, and 450 TDPs from ranks per circle just working normally. But even if your goals did look like that (my personal ones) then you could always bump it up to 30 per.
>Teeklin
Huh?
You don't meet those goals. The 450 TDPs, sure. I get near that a circle on average.
25 ranks of hide per a circle and 18 ranks of longbow? That's bull crap.
That's 500 hide and 360 longbow at 20th circle.
Or 1000 hide and 720 longbow by 40th.
What the heck are you talking about?
Player of Tessaa
>Teeklin
Huh?
You don't meet those goals. The 450 TDPs, sure. I get near that a circle on average.
25 ranks of hide per a circle and 18 ranks of longbow? That's bull crap.
That's 500 hide and 360 longbow at 20th circle.
Or 1000 hide and 720 longbow by 40th.
What the heck are you talking about?
Player of Tessaa
NKRISS
Re: Small favor
10/24/2004 05:59 PM CDT
>>25 ranks of hide per a circle and 18 ranks of longbow? That's bull crap.
Obviously not retroactive, else it would be impossible.
I set my goals in 10 circle increments. From 40th-50th I focused on different skills in different amounts than from 50th-60th. And when I hit 60th, I'll change my 25/18/450 goal...maybe to 20 evasion/15 PM/20 Scouting/500, I don't ever know till I get there.
-Teeklin Tessenoak, Proud Ranger of Elanthia
For me, there is no perfect day.
Obviously not retroactive, else it would be impossible.
I set my goals in 10 circle increments. From 40th-50th I focused on different skills in different amounts than from 50th-60th. And when I hit 60th, I'll change my 25/18/450 goal...maybe to 20 evasion/15 PM/20 Scouting/500, I don't ever know till I get there.
-Teeklin Tessenoak, Proud Ranger of Elanthia
For me, there is no perfect day.
NKRISS
Re: Small favor
10/24/2004 06:04 PM CDT
>>You don't meet those goals. The 450 TDPs, sure. I get near that a circle on average
Also, you and everyone else who read it already knew that I didn't mean 25/18/450 from 1st circle on.
-Teeklin Tessenoak, Proud Ranger of Elanthia
For me, there is no perfect day.
Also, you and everyone else who read it already knew that I didn't mean 25/18/450 from 1st circle on.
-Teeklin Tessenoak, Proud Ranger of Elanthia
For me, there is no perfect day.
TALINDA123
Re: Small favor
10/24/2004 08:02 PM CDT
You guys are too much of achievers for me. I don't set any real goals, actually, my most major goal is pretty minor, just want to be more powerful than anyone, including god moded gm's and all, nothing much to ask. I want to one hit kill King Raelinar both melee or range. I want to dance with all the evil gm's god mode buffed and laugh at their pitiful attempt to try and harm me. Then I want everyone worship my Celestial like skillz, something about god status is too light weight for me, gods aint gonna have trash on me...
Ps: I'm done talking trash for today
Battle Rager Catullus
Ps: I'm done talking trash for today
Battle Rager Catullus
HELLCAT
Re: Small favor
10/25/2004 11:35 AM CDT
Ahh...yea...what he said goes for me to. ::flexes::
___
Violence does not lead to more violence. The truth is that ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more death. However fully thought through, well executed violence never leads to more violence because afterwards, the other guys are all dead.
___
Violence does not lead to more violence. The truth is that ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more death. However fully thought through, well executed violence never leads to more violence because afterwards, the other guys are all dead.
KLOUDZ
Re: Small favor
10/26/2004 11:46 AM CDT
making an overall good char is one thing....but training everything to get that total skill points up is just silly(to me)
Every char i have ever had i trained up to kill people....and i will be doing this with this one too
for a barb train up a ranged.....get a real good amount in it....380 is a good number if you do everything right you can make yerself a 70th barb off of that.
also when you are training that always work hiding and stalking..
this is my formula for DR pvp: evasion + shield + parry < hiding you can't hit what yah can't see
the final thing needed is perc.....man i know its boring to work but the payoff is great
once i get to 70th you can backtrain things like evasion or other melee weapons.... yes i said backtrain evasion....heres why: right now as it stands a certain guild can hit 350 evasion with 140 LX they don't have to even be sniping, they just gotta eat the right cookie combo. Could 140 perc be able to see 350 hiding...even with tons of buffs the answer is no....and hiding is just as easy to learn as evasion if you know what you are doing...
all these barbs keep showing total ranks.....when only 4 matter(to me)
-DZ-
Every char i have ever had i trained up to kill people....and i will be doing this with this one too
for a barb train up a ranged.....get a real good amount in it....380 is a good number if you do everything right you can make yerself a 70th barb off of that.
also when you are training that always work hiding and stalking..
this is my formula for DR pvp: evasion + shield + parry < hiding you can't hit what yah can't see
the final thing needed is perc.....man i know its boring to work but the payoff is great
once i get to 70th you can backtrain things like evasion or other melee weapons.... yes i said backtrain evasion....heres why: right now as it stands a certain guild can hit 350 evasion with 140 LX they don't have to even be sniping, they just gotta eat the right cookie combo. Could 140 perc be able to see 350 hiding...even with tons of buffs the answer is no....and hiding is just as easy to learn as evasion if you know what you are doing...
all these barbs keep showing total ranks.....when only 4 matter(to me)
-DZ-
BARIEN
Re: Small favor
10/26/2004 12:08 PM CDT
>>making an overall good char is one thing....but training everything to get that total skill points up is just silly(to me)
While there are others of us enjoy it. I do what is fun for me at the time.
>>Every char i have ever had i trained up to kill people....and i will be doing this with this one too
Some of us don't train for PvP.
>>for a barb train up a ranged.....get a real good amount in it....380 is a good number if you do everything right you can make yerself a 70th barb off of that.
Definately train a ranged weapon. Makes survivng lot easier when get swarm and can retreat and shoot the creatures until get to manageable level.
>>also when you are training that always work hiding and stalking..
Another yes here. Being able to get to melee and ambush or poaching a creature is nice to be able to do.
>>this is my formula for DR pvp: evasion + shield + parry < hiding you can't hit what yah can't see
If you PvP, but not 100% accurate. The person who points so many times gets shot when in that 2 sec rt.
>>the final thing needed is perc.....man i know its boring to work but the payoff is great
Just juggle between hunting runs. It is easy enough to do.
>>once i get to 70th you can backtrain things like evasion or other melee weapons.... yes i said backtrain evasion....heres why: right now as it stands a certain guild can hit 350 evasion with 140 LX they don't have to even be sniping, they just gotta eat the right cookie combo. Could 140 perc be able to see 350 hiding...even with tons of buffs the answer is no....and hiding is just as easy to learn as evasion if you know what you are doing...
I'd rather train them now so don't have as much backtraining when I get to 70th.
>>all these barbs keep showing total ranks.....when only 4 matter(to me)
While others matter to others of us. To each his own.
Brabs
It's fascinating, though, how much like an oral culture this can be when it's carried out entirely in text.--GM Natala
While there are others of us enjoy it. I do what is fun for me at the time.
>>Every char i have ever had i trained up to kill people....and i will be doing this with this one too
Some of us don't train for PvP.
>>for a barb train up a ranged.....get a real good amount in it....380 is a good number if you do everything right you can make yerself a 70th barb off of that.
Definately train a ranged weapon. Makes survivng lot easier when get swarm and can retreat and shoot the creatures until get to manageable level.
>>also when you are training that always work hiding and stalking..
Another yes here. Being able to get to melee and ambush or poaching a creature is nice to be able to do.
>>this is my formula for DR pvp: evasion + shield + parry < hiding you can't hit what yah can't see
If you PvP, but not 100% accurate. The person who points so many times gets shot when in that 2 sec rt.
>>the final thing needed is perc.....man i know its boring to work but the payoff is great
Just juggle between hunting runs. It is easy enough to do.
>>once i get to 70th you can backtrain things like evasion or other melee weapons.... yes i said backtrain evasion....heres why: right now as it stands a certain guild can hit 350 evasion with 140 LX they don't have to even be sniping, they just gotta eat the right cookie combo. Could 140 perc be able to see 350 hiding...even with tons of buffs the answer is no....and hiding is just as easy to learn as evasion if you know what you are doing...
I'd rather train them now so don't have as much backtraining when I get to 70th.
>>all these barbs keep showing total ranks.....when only 4 matter(to me)
While others matter to others of us. To each his own.
Brabs
It's fascinating, though, how much like an oral culture this can be when it's carried out entirely in text.--GM Natala
KLOUDZ
