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Okay, thankfully someone directed me to the correct place to post this, so I'll try it again...

The rope bridge over the sky giant ravine is no more of a problem than the road to vines and creepers up by Theren, EXCEPT at the end; the 25 seconds of RT there can be deadly, if you're not up into warcat hunting range.

I'll summarize my point: It should be impossible to be advanced on and attacked while in RT, since presumable that RT means you're still on the rope. Due to mechanics it deposits you in the room, though, and leave you at the mercy of anything that might be there.

So far I've managed to avoid dying, though it was a close thing the first time through. Is there any chance the bridge could be changed to the road to Ker'leor model, where you still have RT but get put in a special room until it ends, then deposited at the destination? Or could we have that last block of RT removed, or lessened?

Thanks :)


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>>It has been stated by the creators that the rope bridge is meant to be dangerous. There are other ways to get to Rossman's more safely, ship, moongate, up the Jantspyre river from Riverhaven...

The problem is going from Theren to Riverhaven. It's either that or the barge. The only problem I have with it is that the RT is all random and all large. It should scale with skill IMO

As JMF90 says, the problem is not the danger exactly, but the illogical danger you get at that one particular point. A warcat should NOT be able to attack you while you're on the rope bridge, it makes no sense, yet that is what happens.

It could have been a technical limitation or an oversight, but the fact remains that it is just quirky mechanics and certainly can be fixed, as shown by the road leading to vines and creepers from Theren.

I'll repost an example for clarification... say you want to go to the store. If you get in your car and drive there, it may take say five minutes. That is your RT: the five minutes it takes to move from one place, your home, to the store, the other. Moving on the rope SHOULD be the same way; the RT there comes from moving from one place to the next along the rope.

Now, say something happens to the store while you're going there. A gas leak that makes it explode, or whatever. You're still on the way there (read: still in RT on the rope bridge), not ACTUALLY there, so what happens at your destination should not affect you.

The way the bridge works, you effectively teleport each time you "shuffle", and then sit for half a minute. This is illogical, and THAT is what I am basing my argument on. You are still in the RT from the action of shuffling to your destination, yet things happening in (or creatures at) this destination can affect you.

I will admit that this is how much of movement in DR works... swimming, for instance, gives a few seconds when moving room to room. However, I can generally overcome a two second roundtime; 25 is a totally different case.

I think that about sums it up, sorry for the long post... just trying to be clear as I can.


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Any Red Names care to comment on this?


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>>Get enough combat skills where once you cross it won't be any type of danger. Those warcats and bandits are the easiest to hunt in Rossmans so once you are past them it's a piece of cake.

Scouts and the warcats with the are the easiest

actually the warcats come in 3 varieties, ones with scouts, ones with bandits, ones with reivers in the village. They are all different in skill and go from easiest in scouts, midrange in bandits, and the harder in with reivers. Hope that helps.

Rehlyn

You gesture at a gargantuan korograth.
A sheet of slippery rich amber ale-hued ice forms beneath a gargantuan korograth!
The gargantuan korograth refuses to fall.

Oversight? And here I thought it was designed to set qualifications to get into the area. Rossman's Landing isn't supposed to be easily reached by characters below a minimum level of capability. It's a higher level area, and even if one successfully argues that the design of the rope bridge is illogical, any proposed change would need to be one that preserves the intent and effectiveness of the obstacle.

Perhaps orc archers should shoot at characters the whole time they are on the rope bridge. :)

>Perhaps orc archers should shoot at characters the whole time they are on the rope bridge. :)

that actually would be more realistic. and certainly would still have alot of danger. obviously there should not be a 100% chance that it happens, but if one is in the room below, or wanders in, then yea, fire away.

~Artilius

The one time I fell off the rope I landed back at the spot where I got on the rope. I'm not sure actually falling into sky giants is possible, would be kind of rough for someone who ended up stuck on the ropes due to a lost internet connection or something.

The sky giant thing is what I've heard from most sources, though I am both lucky enough and smart enough not to be testing it on my relatively low-circle character.


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<<L's post>>

By testing I meant crossing the bridge back and forth over and over specifically to see if anyting happens. I only head up that way occasionally, but I'll post if something happens too, of course.


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Most people reading this for the first time just tried to lick their elbows.

There was no trying on my part.

I do.

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>I think i just lost my appetite. -Denz

NO WAY!

ADD A SHAKE VERB TO THE BRIDGE SO I CAN

>SHAKE BRIDE

and then give whoever is on it another agility check to see if they fall!

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Genius idea I know.


"Failure is not our only punishment for laziness: there is also the success of others."
Jules Renard

That's evil, heheh...

Anyway, I don't think we ever got an answer as to whether or not this might happen. The RT should not come after you move off the bridge; it's basically saying you just stood around for 30 seconds after you hopped off. It's less of a pain in the other instances where this happens, because the RT is lower, but with this...

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Every broken enemy will know
That their opponent had to be invincible;
Take a last look around while you're alive,
I'm an indestructible Master of War!
~Disturbed: Indestructible, unofficial Barbarian Theme Song. YouTube it.

>>It's less of a pain in the other instances where this happens, because the RT is lower, but with this...

>?

must be a Plat thing

<<must be a Plat thing >>

i don't know why someone in plat would even cross that bridge, with jump jewelry available there.


<<Because it's a gigantic can of worms. Eldritch, necrotic, squamous worms, writhing in a vile stew of coagulating ichor, crushed from the living gullets of a thousand infant puppies, ululating in wordless terror. - Lorz>>

>>i don't know why someone in plat would even cross that bridge, with jump jewelry available there.

Unfortunately, none of the jump jewelry pieces come pre-set for Rossman's. So you have to:

a)Get a blank piece and hope to see a moon mage who can fix it for you.
b)Cross the bridge and hope nothing's waiting on the other side.
c)Learn to swim well.

That being said, I do agree that a novice char shouldn't try to cross that bridge without a very good reason. Though it does give me an idea for an experiment...


Sometimes the key to happiness is not assuming it is locked in the first place- Ziggy

A journey of a thousand SMILES begins with a single step- Ziggy

There are alternatives to taking that rope bridge

1) moongate

2) have a ranger run you up via trails

>Apparently, novices can't fall off that bri--err, damn. Lemme amend that: apparently novices can't climb out of sky giants either.

You need 50 ranks of climbing to get on the rope.

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