Sang Portrait Work in Progress 08/26/2008 06:54 PM CDT
Sketchin it out. Mostly just using this as a warmup for some freelance work I need to get started on.

I dunno a little sneak peek of the portrait. I'd like to flesh this out a lot.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v473/rushwolf/?action=view¤t=Sang1.jpg
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 08/26/2008 07:08 PM CDT
Sketchin it out. Mostly just using this as a warmup for some freelance work I need to get started on.
I dunno a little sneak peek of the portrait. I'd like to flesh this out a lot.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v473/rushwolf/?action=view¤t=Sang1.jpg


Keep going, I like your style.


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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 08/26/2008 07:25 PM CDT
How much do you plan on charging for these?



Rev. Reene

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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 08/26/2008 07:51 PM CDT
I'll decide when Im finished doing mine. Try to set the bar for quality standard and fix a reasonable price base on time/effort and well.. quality.
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 08/27/2008 02:55 PM CDT
>Keep going, I like your style.

QFT


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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/23/2008 04:15 PM CST
Just posting a portrait that I did just finished for my good friend, Terra. You can see it on her Elanthipedia page.

http://elanthipedia.com/wiki/Terra

Enjoy!


Tabby Faye
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/23/2008 04:54 PM CST
Nifty. :)

I like the choice of pose, what's your working method?


Denstimar Dustyfoot
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"Have you not learned great lessons from those who braced themselves against you, and disputed passage with you?" - Walt Whitman
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/23/2008 07:58 PM CST
I drew and digitally painted the entire thing using adobe photoshop and a wacom tablet.


Tabby Faye
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 01:00 AM CST
I didn't like how empty the top part of the picture was, so I made it a little more "bardy"...

You might have to hit refresh to see the new pic if you saw the old one!

http://elanthipedia.com/wiki/Terra


Tabby Faye
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 01:11 AM CST
You have a nice style. I think you really captured his character well.



Rev. Reene

Gylwyn says to you, "Heretics are often the finders of truth."
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 08:19 AM CST
>You have a nice style. I think you really captured his character well.

Stole the words out of my mind.


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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 09:44 AM CST
Man I wish I could use CS3 that well.

Denz
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 09:48 AM CST
On a side note which tablet do you use... I've always drawn but I recently got very interested in Digital work and have been thinking about investing in a tablet.

Denz
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 10:00 AM CST
Dunno about them but I use a Wacom Graphire 4 and it works amazingly on top of only being like 100 dollars these days.



Rev. Reene

Gylwyn says to you, "Heretics are often the finders of truth."
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 10:10 AM CST
In my own experience I suggest getting the largest size Intuos you can justify with your budget/ammount of digital work you do. I do touchups of my scanned traditional artwork with a 12x12. If I were to do a larger quantity of purely digital I'd definitely move up to the 12x19. As with traditional media, the more freedom you allow your arm in motion, the more intuitive and less choppy you're likely to work. Nothing worse than artwork that's been pecked or noodled to death, even if the digital tools allow you to cover it up a little.

I have a couple buddies who work purely digital and also swear by the Cintiq, and having tested them out, they're pretty nifty, particularly the 20wsx, but that's out of most people's price range unless you're a pro or have major aspirations to be a pro.

Also, just personal preference, since I use CS3 for the touchups I mentioned... But for start-to-finish digital painting I've found Painter to be vastly preferable to Photoshop.


Denstimar Dustyfoot
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"Have you not learned great lessons from those who braced themselves against you, and disputed passage with you?" - Walt Whitman
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 10:12 AM CST
I use either my old Intuos 1 9x12 tablet or my Intuos 2 6x8 tablet. I almost always use the smaller size tablet.. it feels more natural to me.


Tabby Faye
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 02:10 PM CST
I work at Kinkos so I do some digital work so that's what really turned me on to digital work. The 12x9 & 12x12 are most definately out of my range (even on ebay they average a few hundred). I'll definately look into one of the smaller ones though. I've never heard of painter and I Have CS3 thanks to my job and hopefuully I'll have CS4 (man I wish I could just go to graphics design school)

Anywayz Thanks for the info.

Denz
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 02:39 PM CST
You can certainly do whatever you need to do with Photoshop, plenty of people do, but just in case you're ever wanting to check it our and have a few extra bucks to burn, this is the painter software I was referring to:

http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Product/1166553885783#tabview=tab0

As far as a design school goes, the most important part of any art/graphical school is networking and building connections in the industry (through working instructors, guest speakers, etc.), to get jobs and make money. Technical skills are easily learned from books, and artistic skill is also easily mastered by getting good books on the aspects you're most interested in and constant hard work and practice (and sharing with like-minded others, who aren't liable to give false compliments, a brutally honest friend or two and a mind to accept criticism is the strongest art tool of all). Most of the best books are extremely cheap.

Sorry for the rambling, I just enjoy encouraging more people to pursue a love for visual expression, whether professionally or as a hobby.


Denstimar Dustyfoot
Idon Raider - www.idonraiders.com
"Have you not learned great lessons from those who braced themselves against you, and disputed passage with you?" - Walt Whitman
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 02:44 PM CST
For people who prefer "free" instead of "extremely expensive" (Photoshop) imaging software:

www.gimp.org

For most purposes, it is a very nice program.



Rev. Reene

Gylwyn says to you, "Heretics are often the finders of truth."
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 03:19 PM CST
Spiffy, I'll have to give that a spin sometime.

And just to play devil's advocate, Photoshop isn't very expensive at all, if you buy it by itself, as far as graphical software goes. One job should easily recoup more than the entire cost. I feel sort of bad for my 3d modeling friends who've had to fork out the $3,500 for 3ds max at one point or another. Even knowing it's tax deductible, that's still a non-trivial chunk of change, particularly when you're still a student (which is when most are in a position to need to buy it).

Incidentally, thanks for mentioning CS4, DENZ, I was oblivious to a new version having been released. :)


Denstimar Dustyfoot
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"Have you not learned great lessons from those who braced themselves against you, and disputed passage with you?" - Walt Whitman
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 03:56 PM CST
I have both painter and photoshop and while I use painter on occasion, I like photoshop better personally. Also I can't stand using the larger size tablets.. I do much better on a smaller one. I guess the bottom line is that everyone has different ways of doing things, and whatever is comfortable for you.. go with that. I've never had any "formal training" and am pretty much self taught through books and online tutorials. Not that I'm qualified to give advice.. but if I could give any tips.. it would be that the basics are very important. Study and copy anatomy books (skeleton and muscles) and don't be afraid to do research on things you are interested in drawing. Nude figure drawing classes and taking reference photos of friends in interesting poses can help a lot too.


Tabby Faye
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 04:47 PM CST
>> Nude figure drawing classes

Another note for poor people:

Softcore porn.

I'm serious. I use it. It's free and just as effective at teaching form, shading and posing, really. There are plenty of artsy and fairly unoffensive sites floating around with lots of material to draw from.

(I wonder if this post will get pulled? Heh.)



Rev. Reene

Gylwyn says to you, "Heretics are often the finders of truth."
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 05:08 PM CST
Not that Reene needs dittos to sell her point, but I've doodled with gimp for about a year now off and on. I was blown away to get a tool like that for free.

~Brian/Bahb
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 06:09 PM CST
>>Renee's last post.

I've known several folks who do that, and I myself did that when I was lacking for other material to practice with, it's not a bad idea. My only issue with it is that the lighting is almost always horrendous, even in the most quality (ie. "artsy") stuff. They're much more useful for quick form and gesture studies than in-depth rendering.

Another thing is to find (preferably well known, respected) artists you like and copy them, do everything from tracing directly over reproductions of their work to doing it by sight. Do it constantly. One of the worst impressions I see people getting into their heads (and I had it myself, to my detriment, when I was around high school age) is that somehow copying = bad. Copying is how all great historical artists learned and matured. Just don't plagiarize (ie. don't sell your copies).

My favorite, though, is to find a good city/junior/community college that offers life drawing courses and just take advantage of them. They're much cheaper than hiring your own model, going to art school, or joining a group of artists that meet weekly/biweekly to share a model, and it gives you the chance to share tips with others. I do this myself still about one term every couple years just for the heck of it, though at this point I wind up teaching the classes more than the paid instructors do. :|


Denstimar Dustyfoot
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"Have you not learned great lessons from those who braced themselves against you, and disputed passage with you?" - Walt Whitman
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Re: Sang Portrait Work in Progress 11/24/2008 09:08 PM CST
Yeah, so uh, I found Fallout 3 to offer quite a bit of power in creating character models. I managed to get Aveda very close to how I picture her in my head. Too bad I couldn't borrow a mage's robe from Morrowind...

http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Aveda



Aveda's Field Guide- http://dr.aveda.googlepages.com
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