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It's typically a jab at people who say, as in the text, 'I did X when it was hard'.

>http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/rose-tinted+glasses

I now know what my next alteration will be.

<<...I love that you explained the definition of 'rose tinted lenses' and then someone felt the need to demonstrate it.

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<...I love that I explained the definition of 'rose tinted lenses' and then someone felt the need to demonstrate it.

Except I never played Vanilla WoW. I played a bit during the Wrath of the Lich King era, but couldn't stomach it long enough to get past level 60 - largely due to a lot of the "features" listed on those rose-colored glasses. And a lack of features that would have interested me - like a more realistic night as mentioned on the glasses. It's a frakking slot machine simulator with more bells and whistles than you can shake a stick at, but nothing really compelling.

I just know from experience that I tend to enjoy the simulation aspects of games. I'm the type who finds games like Dwarf Fortress, Silent Hunter, and Kerbal Space Program (to name just a few) amazingly fun and entertaining. Instant gratification is typically of no concern to me, and features that cater to it at the expense of immersion are ones that I tend to find off-putting.

Say what you will, but I don't think that simply liking the sound of something means that I'm wearing rose-colored glasses.

Vanilla WoW was hard because you had a 40 man raid, 15 people who had any idea what they were doing, 25 just along for the loot, no damage meters or other advanced logging to understand who was actually doing their jobs, far less optimized gear (Both due to the average level of game mechanic knowledge among the players and because the gear for many classes was just BAD), many bad or broken specs and so forth. Loot drops were also a lot rarer so it took far longer to gear everyone and there was a plethora of resistance fights which resulted in fun stuff like level 60 rogues farming 40-50 level instances so they could do specific fights in a mishmash of under leveled cloth/leather gear just because it had the right resistance stats on it as the only alternative to farming the heck out of the world bosses.

And most of your players hadn't been raiding for years and years and years and weren't familiar with voice chat. So there's that too.

That said, the peak of WoW for me was Burning Crusade - but that's because for the majority of that expansion I lead a fairly tightly knit guild that completely dominated our server's economy and raids and it was a blast - the first time you dropped Kael'Thas or Illidan? Those fights were more absurd than anything in vanilla by far and directly tied into popular WC3 characters.

Of course, even thinking back to the huge amount of time sunk into stupid guild politics or utterly failing on bosses and so forth causes me to twitch. And in a nutshell that's why I don't play WoW anymore and have burned out quickly the last few times I tried - it's a social game for me. LFR and LFG is fine, but it's not the same as a tightly knit raiding guild and I don't have the time and schedule to be part of one of those these days. Of course, if I did I wouldn't be able to do much for DR so maybe we're all winning.

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

Alas, I never killed Kil'Jaeden. Sunwell was sort of the beginning of the end of my guild (I had long term computer issues during that time, we lost several of our best healers right after dropping Illidan and so forth. Brutallus was moral crushing and drained our extensive guild coffers on insane repair and consumable bills).

The guild did eventually make it through Sunwell, but not before I had to drop out of WoW until WotLK. In retrospect, I've burned out on every version of WoW at some point, it's just been quicker every expansion. Achievements are a dangerous thing for me - I'm very much the sort who wants to do "everything" so they're both a motivating force and something that drives me insane chasing them to the detriment of my own enjoyment. I've slowly gotten better about not generally not caring about them as they've infected every aspect of gaming these days.

I don't know if I'll go back for the next one or not. The logistics and lack of an established guild to return to are big hindrances (The last remnants of my old guild finally folded early in Cataclysm and my old server was a ghost town when I finally did the Panda thing for a month) but a return to the Outlands and some of the other things they're doing with the next expansion have me interested. We'll see.

-Raesh

"Ever notice that B.A.'s flavor text swells in direct proportion to how much one of our characters is getting screwed?" - Brian Van Hoose

<Panda furry times.

Speaking of rose-colored goggles ... remember when Warcraft didn't have anthropomorphic cows/pandas/etc? I haven't really enjoyed a single Blizzard product since Blizzard North left, let alone after the Activision merger. Everything turned into PG rated Saturday morning cartoons (with very rare exception) - and not even good ones. Anything to expand to that broader market!

Frakking pandas. That's even worse than Prydaen!

<Achievements are a dangerous thing for me - I'm very much the sort who wants to do "everything" so they're both a motivating force and something that drives me insane chasing them to the detriment of my own enjoyment. I've slowly gotten better about not generally not caring about them as they've infected every aspect of gaming these days.

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>Speaking of rose-colored goggles ... remember when Warcraft didn't have anthropomorphic cows/pandas/etc?

Yes, heaven forbid my game with giant steampunk tanks and airships, and magic, and teleportation devices, and trains, and giant squid monsters, and anthropomorphic wolves (worg and things like Hogger) and trolls and every other classic monster, plus mummies and pokemon, have anthropomorphic cows.

Because THAT IS THE LINE!

That always has been a completely idiotic stance. There are enough stupid things in WoW as-is that going '.butbutbut cows and pandas' just makes you look like an idiot.

<<Alas, I never killed Kil'Jaeden. Sunwell was sort of the beginning of the end of my guild (I had long term computer issues during that time, we lost several of our best healers right after dropping Illidan and so forth. Brutallus was moral crushing and drained our extensive guild coffers on insane repair and consumable bills).

Illidan was the big kill I agree. But we did manage to clear Sunwell before they patched in all the WotLK improvements thereby making all the old content irrelevant. tanking Brutallus and getting a kill with me as a paladin main tank on him BEFORE the other big guild on my server got their kill with warrior main tanks is one of my highlight moments of WoW.

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WoW != Warcraft

Up until Warcraft 3 (which happened after the Blizz North split) the wackiest Warcraft got was goblin zeppelins and gnomish flying machines (and even then these pushed the borders of good taste.) Well, that and a couple of gruesome easter eggs like exploding seals.

It's hard to accept the incredibly generic 21st century fantasty world of Orcs and Humans as somehow superior to anything. Warcraft has a recognizable style now when the early games were a mud palette smeared over Warcraft.

They could have been set in Tamriel without having to change anything.

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>Forgive my snark, but welcome to the life of a warrior mage.

In spite of the light hearted face that the Pandaren put on the expansion, as a whole it was pretty dark. Lots of war crimes and genocide and assassination attempts leading up to the Siege of Orgrimmar.

Yup. Hated it. Never went back. Maybe it was a 6 month I bought. Whatever the case, it was worth the money to get rid of it. Worst gaming experience for me, ever.

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"I only automatically kill players when they're asking for it or it's funny. Or both." ~GM Raesh

You must either love hyperbole or don't play many video games if you're going with "worst gaming experience ever".

You're more than welcome to not like a game. I don't play it anymore, either, because I don't like it. But to call it the "worst gaming experience ever" just makes no sense, unless you've only played like four video games in your life.

<<I'm also sad that I missed the original Star Wars Galaxies. I've heard that it might have been my type of game

There was fast travel, healing classes that did more than just heal, anthropomorphic races, and dungeons, so that's doubtful.

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SW:G also had extremely fat Wookiee cantina* dancers as a viable career choice.

-Raesh

*Seriously Chrome? You don't recognize the word "cantina"?

>>I don't like the way dungeons are handled in persistent world style MMOs. It's mostly the repeatability that bugs me there. I'll play the hell out of a dungeon in a single player game, or in pen and paper <instert RPG of choice.> But I don't enjoy killing the same boss 10 times in a row hoping for the right piece of gear to drop, no. Most dungeons are reasonably fun the first time, and maybe even the second or third time if you've got some good friends to run them with. But after that it gets very stale very quickly. Much like the whole tab-target combat system.

Soooo again you haven't done quests in DR? DR also has the added benefit of charging for each time you want to repeat the dungeon... I know tons of people that have done all of the quests more than once... myself included. The riot quests are specifically designed to be reran.

Tab-target? that was in EVE and many other games... and doesn't even make sense as a complaint. You don't like that it allows you to highlight a mob? So you don't ever use 'face next' in DR?

Again.. comparing ET to anything else and expecting people to take you serious doesn't really work.