I'm not sure if it's intentional or not, but it seems Tinkering has been partially released into Prime. The instruction books are available to be bought and you can ask for tinkering workorders. The tinkering tools and bolt supplies aren't in the society stores though.
NINEVAH1
YOFIE
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 03:28 PM CDT
Also, work orders can be given and the gear press is present in the crafting rooms within the guild but cannot be used when you try to <push fuel with shovel>
Rehlyn
P.S. love the options in the master tinkering book. wondering if the soldiers in the toy section are siegery pieces.
Well, see, there's the linchpin of why everything you're saying is wrong. There's the fulcrum. There's the centerpiece. There's the turkey on the Thanksgiving table.
Rehlyn
P.S. love the options in the master tinkering book. wondering if the soldiers in the toy section are siegery pieces.
Well, see, there's the linchpin of why everything you're saying is wrong. There's the fulcrum. There's the centerpiece. There's the turkey on the Thanksgiving table.
DR-KODIUS
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 04:54 PM CDT
Hey folks. Yes this is now live in FC. I didn't have any issues using the gear press. Please double-check for me?
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
DUNTS2
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 05:07 PM CDT
Is Engineering Society Master Brogir supposed to respond to all inquiries about engineering techniques with "I cannot tell you anything about that technique."
He'll describe shaping and carving techniques, but not tinkering techniques.
>For some reason you just can't stop thinking about glarmencouplers.
He'll describe shaping and carving techniques, but not tinkering techniques.
>For some reason you just can't stop thinking about glarmencouplers.
DR-KODIUS
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 05:21 PM CDT
Not sure why he isn't describing them. Looking into it.
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
DINERGRRL
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 05:57 PM CDT
There's no bolt flights for sale.
Also still having the same issue I was having in test as far as the system not asking you to use tinker's tools until you analyze because you can't proceed, as follows:
You dab the surface of your bolts with glue and attach the boltheads to them.
A handful of rough edges require carving with a knife to remove.
Roundtime: 18 sec.
>
You put your glue in your duffel bag.
>
You get a silversteel carving knife with a tempered blade from inside your duffel bag.
>
That tool does not seem suitable for that task.
>
You analyze every aspect of the ice-adder bolts and nod as your understanding grows.
When crafting is complete these will be a type of animal part bolts.
Several adjustments must be made to the bolt using a set of tinker's tools.
From the progress so far, it looks like the bolts are masterfully-crafted.
The bolts are an intricate piece to make.
You estimate that they are one-quarter done.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
YOFIE
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 06:03 PM CDT
maybe I'm doing something wrong
log:
>study press
This appears to be a device for pressing ingots into mechanisms.
A nearby sign explains proper use of the tool.
All Engineers please watch your limbs!
TURN the press to set a speed value
from 1 (slow) to 12 (fast). Note
that faster speeds will increase the
difficulty of use.
The press relies on heat to melt the
ingots. PUSH the pile of fuel with a
shovel if the fire has died down.
Warning - the press is hot. Please
hold pliers before operating!
PUSH a held ingot with the press to
first cut gears. Next, PULL a held
unfinished mechanism with the press
to draw out wire. This will produce
a completed mechanism for use with
other crafted items.
>get darkst deed
You get a deed for a darkstone ingot from inside your leather pack.
>tap deed
An attendant arrives, takes your deed and motions to two burly workers. The workers carefully load a darkstone ingot onto a sled, and drag it over in front of you.
You pick up the ingot.
>turn press to 6
You dial the device to 6 and ready it for pressing.
>study press
This appears to be a device for pressing ingots into mechanisms.
A nearby sign explains proper use of the tool.
All Engineers please watch your limbs!
TURN the press to set a speed value
from 1 (slow) to 12 (fast). Note
that faster speeds will increase the
difficulty of use.
The press relies on heat to melt the
ingots. PUSH the pile of fuel with a
shovel if the fire has died down.
Warning - the press is hot. Please
hold pliers before operating!
PUSH a held ingot with the press to
first cut gears. Next, PULL a held
unfinished mechanism with the press
to draw out wire. This will produce
a completed mechanism for use with
other crafted items.
>get shov
You get a tapered darkstone shovel from inside your leather pack.
>push fuel with shove
I don't think pushing that would have any effect.
>push press with ingot
You must PUSH the ingot WITH the gear PRESS to fashion it into some mechanisms.
>push ingot with press
The furnace appears to have died down and will not heat the metal properly. You must PUSH the FUEL WITH a SHOVEL to build the fire back up.
>push fuel with shovel
>
I don't think pushing that would have any effect.
>inv hands
All of your items worn on the hands:
some lumium brigandine gloves
[Type INVENTORY HELP for more options]
>inv
You are holding a darkstone ingot in your left hand and a tapered darkstone shovel in your right hand.
Rehlyn
Well, see, there's the linchpin of why everything you're saying is wrong. There's the fulcrum. There's the centerpiece. There's the turkey on the Thanksgiving table.
log:
>study press
This appears to be a device for pressing ingots into mechanisms.
A nearby sign explains proper use of the tool.
All Engineers please watch your limbs!
TURN the press to set a speed value
from 1 (slow) to 12 (fast). Note
that faster speeds will increase the
difficulty of use.
The press relies on heat to melt the
ingots. PUSH the pile of fuel with a
shovel if the fire has died down.
Warning - the press is hot. Please
hold pliers before operating!
PUSH a held ingot with the press to
first cut gears. Next, PULL a held
unfinished mechanism with the press
to draw out wire. This will produce
a completed mechanism for use with
other crafted items.
>get darkst deed
You get a deed for a darkstone ingot from inside your leather pack.
>tap deed
An attendant arrives, takes your deed and motions to two burly workers. The workers carefully load a darkstone ingot onto a sled, and drag it over in front of you.
You pick up the ingot.
>turn press to 6
You dial the device to 6 and ready it for pressing.
>study press
This appears to be a device for pressing ingots into mechanisms.
A nearby sign explains proper use of the tool.
All Engineers please watch your limbs!
TURN the press to set a speed value
from 1 (slow) to 12 (fast). Note
that faster speeds will increase the
difficulty of use.
The press relies on heat to melt the
ingots. PUSH the pile of fuel with a
shovel if the fire has died down.
Warning - the press is hot. Please
hold pliers before operating!
PUSH a held ingot with the press to
first cut gears. Next, PULL a held
unfinished mechanism with the press
to draw out wire. This will produce
a completed mechanism for use with
other crafted items.
>get shov
You get a tapered darkstone shovel from inside your leather pack.
>push fuel with shove
I don't think pushing that would have any effect.
>push press with ingot
You must PUSH the ingot WITH the gear PRESS to fashion it into some mechanisms.
>push ingot with press
The furnace appears to have died down and will not heat the metal properly. You must PUSH the FUEL WITH a SHOVEL to build the fire back up.
>push fuel with shovel
>
I don't think pushing that would have any effect.
>inv hands
All of your items worn on the hands:
some lumium brigandine gloves
[Type INVENTORY HELP for more options]
>inv
You are holding a darkstone ingot in your left hand and a tapered darkstone shovel in your right hand.
Rehlyn
Well, see, there's the linchpin of why everything you're saying is wrong. There's the fulcrum. There's the centerpiece. There's the turkey on the Thanksgiving table.
DR-KODIUS
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 06:13 PM CDT
Could you please ASSIST? Your shovel may be broken or something.
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
DR-KODIUS
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 06:27 PM CDT
Ok I added the bolt flights. Working on fixing the need for tinker tools when making bolts. It shouldn't be asking for them, which is why it is acting odd.
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
DR-KODIUS
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 07:21 PM CDT
Ok for now bolt tinkering will use a carving knife instead of Tinker tools. Didn't feel like getting that sorted out right now.
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
DONNACHAIDH
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 08:15 PM CDT
Naissura hefts the battle crossbow and puts it on the medium balance scale. She patiently adds small sacks of stones on the other side till the beam becomes exactly level.
Naissura squints at the balance beam needle and says, "The crossbow weighs about two hundred fifty stones," and puts the crossbow on the counter.
You pay Naissura and take your crossbow off the counter.
Heavy battle crossbow made with osage and cove gears seems a little much for weight
An osage battle crossbow is a heavy crossbow type weapon.
An osage battle crossbow trains the crossbow skill.
The battle crossbow is extremely well designed for improving the force of your attacks.
You are certain that the crossbow is fairly balanced and is very well suited for adding attack power from its draw strength.
You are certain that the battle crossbow is marginally vulnerable to damage, and is in pristine condition.
The battle crossbow is made with metal.
You wonder if the wood in the battle crossbow is of perfect quality.
You guess that the wood in the battle crossbow has good durability.
You are certain that the wood in the battle crossbow is very difficult to work with.
You wonder if the wood in the battle crossbow is quite hard.
You wonder if the wood in the battle crossbow is moderately stiff.
You wonder if the wood in the battle crossbow is very good at resisting rupture.
You think it is likely that the wood in the battle crossbow is exceptional affinity for making.
You believe that the wood in the battle crossbow is exceptional affinity for making.
You guess that the wood in the battle crossbow is moderate affinity for making.
It appears that the battle crossbow can be slung over one shoulder.
The battle crossbow has a bit of weight to it.
You are certain that the battle crossbow is worth exactly 15625 Kronars.
Roundtime: 16 seconds.
MITHYLDR
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 09:43 PM CDT
>Ok I added the bolt flights.
I don't see the bolt flights in the Crossing Society.
1). an alabaster rock deed................... 218 Kronars
2). an alabaster boulder deed................ 1250 Kronars
3). a granite rock deed...................... 312 Kronars
4). a granite boulder deed................... 1750 Kronars
5). a marble rock deed....................... 625 Kronars
6). a marble boulder deed.................... 2500 Kronars
7). a stack of 10 deer bones................. 125 Kronars
8). a stack of 10 wolf bones................. 200 Kronars
9). 5 pieces of pine lumber.................. 375 Kronars
10). 5 pieces of maple lumber................ 500 Kronars
11). 10 pieces of balsa lumber............... 562 Kronars
12). 1 batch of straight arrow flights....... 62 Kronars
Also, the techniques are simply a list, not tiered like they are for other disciplines on the chart in the Master's office.
I don't see the bolt flights in the Crossing Society.
1). an alabaster rock deed................... 218 Kronars
2). an alabaster boulder deed................ 1250 Kronars
3). a granite rock deed...................... 312 Kronars
4). a granite boulder deed................... 1750 Kronars
5). a marble rock deed....................... 625 Kronars
6). a marble boulder deed.................... 2500 Kronars
7). a stack of 10 deer bones................. 125 Kronars
8). a stack of 10 wolf bones................. 200 Kronars
9). 5 pieces of pine lumber.................. 375 Kronars
10). 5 pieces of maple lumber................ 500 Kronars
11). 10 pieces of balsa lumber............... 562 Kronars
12). 1 batch of straight arrow flights....... 62 Kronars
Also, the techniques are simply a list, not tiered like they are for other disciplines on the chart in the Master's office.
DONNACHAIDH
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 09:48 PM CDT
I Believe tinkering is only live in the fang cove area,I could be wrong
MITHYLDR
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 10:03 PM CDT
The books are being sold in the Crossing Society.
NINEVAH1
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 11:22 PM CDT
>The books are being sold in the Crossing Society.
That's it though. Tinker's tools, bolt flights, and the gear presses are only in Fang Cove for now.
That's it though. Tinker's tools, bolt flights, and the gear presses are only in Fang Cove for now.
DR-KODIUS
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/22/2016 11:57 PM CDT
The techniques should be fixed. It is intentional that the other Halls lack everything necessary to Tinker. This release was specific to Fang's Cove for the week. I'll get the rest out soon thereafter.
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts."
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
SHAWN255
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
05/23/2016 12:04 AM CDT
ask paa about tink
Paarupensteen chuckles to himself and says, "Yes, tinkering. We do hope to get this Discipline organized before too much longer. Try back again later and maybe it will be finished!"
Paarupensteen nods and says, "It seems you are ready to learn another tinkering technique."
Paarupensteen nods to himself and says, "Well then, I can teach you the tinkering techniques of Simple Gearworking, Crossbow Basics, Advanced Boltmaking, Mechanism Crafting, Tinkered Lamination, Tinkered Maintenance and Tinkering Specialization. Ask me about learning one by name, and we can get started."
Need to update it so the society masters know for sure tinkering has been released :)
MAGE-WARRIOR
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
06/05/2016 12:39 AM CDT
I tried asking Brogir about the various Tinkering techs tonight, but he still responded that he didn't know. And when I trained one and tried to see what I did, I got this:
>craft tinkering
From the tinkering crafting discipline you have been trained in Mechanism Crafting.
>craft tinkering mechanism crafting
You know nothing about that technique.
I think something killed the info on tinkering techs.
>craft tinkering
From the tinkering crafting discipline you have been trained in Mechanism Crafting.
>craft tinkering mechanism crafting
You know nothing about that technique.
I think something killed the info on tinkering techs.
NITUKI
Re: Tinkering in Prime.
06/05/2016 10:22 AM CDT
Actually he has never known anything about Tinkering techs and it has been bugged and mentioned on the forums a few times.
I think it might have to do with it being just in Fang Cove/premium preview because perhaps the code can't handle one Society Masters knowing things the others don't.
I think it might have to do with it being just in Fang Cove/premium preview because perhaps the code can't handle one Society Masters knowing things the others don't.
