Designs. Kind of like an Architect.
They don't necessarly build things BUT they draw up the design for it and the folks that DO build the things in question they have to purchase the "pansl" "designs" from them, study and follow said "plans/designs" and only once they have grasped them build the said thing using their skill at Carving, Tailoring, smithing,... etc.
More skilled at Artistry more complex designs. Also can be incorporated to require more skills in conbination with Artistry to draw the higer more compex designs. For example you wish to draw up a plans for making a exceptionaly good sword you'd have to have X amount of ranks in said blade skill combined with X amount of ranks of Artistry with some basic amount of ranks in Smithing to give you knowledge of metals. Drawing up a design for say a wedding gown so a skilled tailor can make the said gown you'd have to have basic understanding of Taloring to go along with your many ranks of Artistry. This of course would give folk an opportunity to diverify and specialise down the road...(funny thing most will probbly opt for armor or weapon specs, he he he).
Simple designs to start the skill off for things such as Tailoring designs for basic fluf clothing items, etc.
Just a notion.
TIGARCLAW
LEGERES
Re: How about patterns in general?
04/25/2008 02:58 PM CDT
now there's an idea i haven't heard before, i add to it we should be able to make primers or patterns as well (sewing and origami)
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SPANTONV
Re: How about patterns in general?
04/25/2008 08:11 PM CDT
I would think plans/designs/patterns would be engineering/scholarship? I could be wrong.
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Sortny/Braunwen
TIGARCLAW
Re: How about patterns in general?
04/26/2008 07:29 AM CDT
>I would think plans/designs/patterns would be engineering/scholarship? I could be wrong.
I can see Scholarship skill being required as a lore to say study or design these things.... However we are talking about Drawing and Engineering typicaly is associated with building things. As I said was thinking about things along the lines of what an Architect does. All they do is draw up "plans" "designs" for things they come up with them but do not actually make anything.
I can see Scholarship skill being required as a lore to say study or design these things.... However we are talking about Drawing and Engineering typicaly is associated with building things. As I said was thinking about things along the lines of what an Architect does. All they do is draw up "plans" "designs" for things they come up with them but do not actually make anything.
DAE83
Re: How about patterns in general?
04/26/2008 08:23 AM CDT
<<All they do is draw up "plans" "designs" for things they come up with them but do not actually make anything.>>
This is the whole conceptualization vs application argument.
Sure you can make stuff base knowledge, but to truely excel at a craft you need to be well versed in al lthe theory and applications, in other words the scholarship surrounding the craft.
I see scholarship as not only knowing what shape to make something but it can mean knowing what wood types work best, uder what conditions would the wood be more suited for power or for flexability.
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This is the whole conceptualization vs application argument.
Sure you can make stuff base knowledge, but to truely excel at a craft you need to be well versed in al lthe theory and applications, in other words the scholarship surrounding the craft.
I see scholarship as not only knowing what shape to make something but it can mean knowing what wood types work best, uder what conditions would the wood be more suited for power or for flexability.
"So like I said, don't take it personally. All cultures have their share of fools. It's just that we always felt yours had a lot more than ours."
~~Warrior Mage Guild Leader Senfrislor, The Prydaen in Their Own Words~~
AKERMAN
Re: How about patterns in general?
04/26/2008 09:16 AM CDT
In real life, engineers are primarily designers, not builders (not counting undergrads, who, of course, do both). The technicians and other relatively more blue-collar workers normally build the factories/products to the engineers' specifications.
Designs really ought to be engineering. Maybe a hybrid artistry/engineering deal for certain artistic things (architecture, embellished weapons, etc.). For purely functional things, artistry really ought not to play much of a part.
~Kashik
Designs really ought to be engineering. Maybe a hybrid artistry/engineering deal for certain artistic things (architecture, embellished weapons, etc.). For purely functional things, artistry really ought not to play much of a part.
~Kashik
TIGARCLAW
Re: How about patterns in general?
04/27/2008 03:41 AM CDT
>In real life, engineers are primarily designers, not builders
A) I threw out idea on using the Artistry skill for creting "Patterns" "Plans" and "Designs" in written form. THAT was to be the question and the idea NOT a Engineers Vs Architect debate. Folk seem to take what they want out of what someone sayes and make their own agrument out of it.
B) "In real life...." Umm I play DR BECAUSE it is NOT RL if I wanted RL I can just live it and do daily so that line ALWYAS makes me laugh when used in refrence to anything DR.
A) I threw out idea on using the Artistry skill for creting "Patterns" "Plans" and "Designs" in written form. THAT was to be the question and the idea NOT a Engineers Vs Architect debate. Folk seem to take what they want out of what someone sayes and make their own agrument out of it.
B) "In real life...." Umm I play DR BECAUSE it is NOT RL if I wanted RL I can just live it and do daily so that line ALWYAS makes me laugh when used in refrence to anything DR.
DEVAN
Re: How about patterns in general?
04/27/2008 10:14 PM CDT
>>Umm I play DR BECAUSE it is NOT RL if I wanted RL I can just live it and do daily so that line ALWYAS makes me laugh when used in refrence to anything DR.
It always makes me laugh when people think DR is "NOT RL".
Fantasy is just picking and choosing which parts of real life you like and which parts you don't. Whenever people want something, they say, "It makes sense." Whenever they don't, they say, "This isn't real life."
You're right. It IS funny, how transparent people are.
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It always makes me laugh when people think DR is "NOT RL".
Fantasy is just picking and choosing which parts of real life you like and which parts you don't. Whenever people want something, they say, "It makes sense." Whenever they don't, they say, "This isn't real life."
You're right. It IS funny, how transparent people are.
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For your eyes will only tell the truth..
And the truth isn't what you want to see.
In the dark, it is easy to pretend
That the truth is what it ought to be." - Erik Claudin
TIGARCLAW
Re: How about patterns in general?
04/28/2008 08:16 AM CDT
>Fantasy is just picking and choosing which parts of real life you like and which parts you don't
Rightttt.... How could I have missed that one... in RL I am but a middling lvl 20 wizard at Harry Potter's school of Wizardy but in DR.... in DR I can reach 150+!!!! Yay!
Lol.
Anyhow this is waaayyy of the topic of this folder sooooo to spare the GM Moderator the trouble ...
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Rightttt.... How could I have missed that one... in RL I am but a middling lvl 20 wizard at Harry Potter's school of Wizardy but in DR.... in DR I can reach 150+!!!! Yay!
Lol.
Anyhow this is waaayyy of the topic of this folder sooooo to spare the GM Moderator the trouble ...
:BUMP:
:SOME POSTS WERE HIDDEN:
GONIFTHEEF
Re: How about patterns in general?
04/28/2008 09:58 AM CDT
yes, i see empaths taking over the hospitals now, and raising of the dead next tuesday. :-).
oh, lets go fold origami. well, thats something from RL...
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oh, lets go fold origami. well, thats something from RL...
<<Because it's a gigantic can of worms. Eldritch, necrotic, squamous worms, writhing in a vile stew of coagulating ichor, crushed from the living gullets of a thousand infant puppies, ululating in wordless terror. - Lorz>>
