<I'd gladly trade a custom familiar any day, to see the truth of people.

Good for you ilovemywife for speaking out and I'm sorry you were treated rudely.

There is always a certain level of animosity around these alterations and especially around those who are considered unsavory just for asking questions or being too small to even be there.

For what it is worth those who treated you rudely do not speak for the entire of the game or the Guild!

>>who are considered unsavory just for asking questions or being too small to even be there

There is no 'too small to be there' for a GM-run event. Let's not start that nonsense, please. There is no GM conspiracy to ignore or treat badly PCs that are lower in circle.

The only time your character's circle makes any difference in a GM-run event is if some portion is circle-restricted outright, and that will always be something explicitly stated.

-Persida

I will say that your comment is pretty disingenuous.

You asked how they were chosen. I actually think this is a fine question ask. Though, he didn't blink and then ignore you like you stated. He glanced at you and pointed to the list. That's his honest demeanor, surprised you couldn't pick that up from the rest of what he said and his personality from before that moment.

You didn't "act" shocked due to the GM killing familiars.

You asked:

Brandaen asks Rellecke, "Woah... you're a warrior mage?"

Perhaps be more thorough, because this didn't seem shocked that a WM would kill another's Familiar, but rather that you simply didn't even bother to "look" at him. Get my drift?

He responded pretty well in character, I think. I actually peered at you first, because I too didn't believe it. I had just started typing "How'd you get into the guild?" or something similarly snotty because I am a haughty gentleman.

RP better IMO.

Also, we aren't "yes-men"... you just didn't seem too bright by the statement is all.

Not attacking you here with any of this. Just clarifying and trying to help you understand.

As a side note, his RP demeanor was awesome and really made me worry. I reread his guidelines probably 5 times, even though I knew for a fact I wasn't breaking them. THAT is what it's all about. He affected me in game and honestly out. I had to tell my kids and wife to not bother me so I wouldn't mess up and lose out on the chance.

<There is no 'too small to be there' for a GM-run event. Let's not start that nonsense, please. There is no GM conspiracy to ignore or treat badly PCs that are lower in circle.


I was replying in reference to the comment made by the original poster.

<I may be small, and not part of the elites...

I didn't realize Relleck was played by a GM but the player in question did apparently leave an event feeling as he stated, excluded and ignored.

I was not trying to insult anyone.

I was trying to make sure ilovemywife knew that their words were indeed read and I cared; I don't care about their circle and would be polite to them showing proper respect for the courage it takes for the post and opinion they shared.

Guys, like I said in my first post on this topic, directly demeaning GMs is not allowed on the forums. If you feel there might be wrongdoing on the part of a GM, the way to handle that is to email Feedback at drfeedback@simutronics.com.

Likewise, this is not a conflicts folder, so regardless of your opinion on any portion of the subject, make extra sure to frame it politely towards the players / posters involved.

Discuss the nuances or difficulties of RPing with a surly merchant. Discuss WM familiars and cultural responses to how they might be treated. Discuss how the character of Rellecke is kind of a stuck up jerkface. Discuss how you like or don't like the fact that familiar alterations are very rare, or what the rules for them are. All of these are fine parts of the thread to continue.

If you want to conflict with other posters, take it to OOC Conflicts over in the Social Side. If you think a GM was a jerk, take it to Feedback.

I went out on a limb and left this thread open earlier, with the hopes that the subsequent posts would be constructive and follow forums rules once I explained things in my first post here. I can't continue to give leeway when forums policy is being broken. Any further hostility directed at players or staff in this thread will have this entire thread removed, and warnings given as needed.

-Persida

Well, the shock was obvious that he realized just then that he was a WM, but it wasn't obvious that it was in correlation with the fact that he threatened to kill the familiars. That is, to me at least. We all take things different, in person or in text.

Not really sure what you mean by pandering for the responses. I didn't take it as a direct reaction to his killing of Familiars, I took it as he had just now looked at him. I've also seen people push against alteration merchants, it's a matter of perspective. Rell is just who he is, sometimes in life people have personalities we don't always agree with, but we have to just ignore it and deal with it internally.

I've learned to do this better as I've grown older, and I do it constantly in my current work situation.

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>>But lots of players may choose to RP a character who tells off a grouchy merchant, even if that means losing out on an alteration.

I've never heard of Dailzala, so I'll keep that in mind. But I do think its far different to tell off one grouch who is doing a basic alteration, than to tell off another who is doing an alteration type you may not see again for a year or longer. I think players are far less likely to have their PCs tell the grouch off if they think they'll never have the opportunity again.

Just a thought. I'm not overly concerned regardless, but I saw where Brandaen was coming from IG. (Not entirely sure of what's going on with the original post.)

If Rellecke is abrasive in your eyes, might I suggest you highly avoid Keishalae and Almodivar.

Though it's really nothing new. Even back in the day, there was Snidley and he could be just as crabby. Not every merchant would or should be the same money grubbing "the customer is always right" type. That's fine. They will get their work in regardless if it's from you or someone else, and that's a perfectly valid attitude to have. You have to remember that they aren't just some clerk, they are a master artisan whose work is often coveted in everyday Elanthian society. Typically only royalty gets to work with some of these people, royalty and we assorted dregs.

I find the odd/mean/snarky merchant funny. In real life you have them. That waiter at your favorite restaurant that you REFUSE to be served by because he is the owners cousins brother and cannot be fired so he treats every customer with a mild disdain over their choice of dining out. Seinfeld had the "soup nazi". DR has it's own versions. I don't feel like just because it's a GM run character they have to be all polite and what can I do for you ... especially considering that a lot of us treat them like garbage through the whole process of alterations. All our whining and bawling about who gets what. For extra materials I recall someone bringing like 100 pieces of silversteel or some such thing as "fodder" and expected that they all be used to make some lavish cat house then spent an hour arguing WHY that had to be acceptable. It's refreshing to have different personalities thrown at us. We can RP roll with it or find the exit flap to that particular merchant.

Not everyone is going to cover you with glitter. Except ... one of them will.

~~If you can't live without me why aren't you dead yet?~~

>I'm sorry I don't think that is something Simutronics wants for a paying customer after an interaction with an employee, and I highly doubt that was the employees intent. Many times as players we are told to OOC whisper people to avoid hurt feelings, I wonder if the GM in question couldnt have done the same.

Simutronics doesn't employ any of these people.

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"Warrior Mages don't bother covering up their disasters.
They're proud of them." -Raesh, on history