Are the portals closed to Fang Cove? And, if so why? I recently came back in November and reinstated my Premium Account. I was happy to find the portals open so I could purchase a house and hunt on the island. I figured that perhaps since non-premium members can buy houses, etc., that perhaps the estate holders were being given the benefit of Fang Cove 24/7. I hope I am not wrong in that thinking. If the portals are not going to remain open 24/7, please advise so I can make a decision to either cancel premium and downgrade, or just go back to sleep. I'm not paying a Premium fee for a benefit I cannot cannot access on a daily basis. Especially, since there are now f2p accounts and non-Premium accounts can now buy homes. There has to be some be some benefit to being a Premium member and I consider Fang Cove that benefit. That being said, can jumpy jewelry be set to jump to and from Fang Cove because that would solve my problem? If the answer comes back that the portals are closed because people meet up or hand off stuff, punish those people and not the rest of us who enjoy Fang Cove for hunting reasons and the solitude it offers. And now that there is jumpy jewelry available, people can jump to meet each other so what's the difference?

Thank you for your time,

Player Behind Lorwryn

>Are the portals closed to Fang Cove? And, if so why?

Thayet's (very helpful!) answers aside, the short answer to your question is 'players were told not to abuse it. Players abused it. Portals were closed'.

People were using the portals/island as a staging hub when it was explicitly said it was not one, do not use it as one, etc.

Despite the fact that that's basically what the game very desperately needs.

>Some senior staff or whatever, figure out mechanics are being abused and decide to punish everyone.

I think you're blowing this out of proportion.

You can take a sea mammoth from Leth. It takes, what, 5-10 minutes, round trip. One leaves from Leth, one leaves from Ratha, both go to the island and back. You can get from Leth to the Islands in 10-20 minutes.

The mechanics being abused were the portal mechanics themselves. Players were told, multiple times, to stop using the portals to bypass the game distances (i.e. I'm in Haven, you're in Hibi, let's meet in the portals to sell/heal).

There were, at some point, big plans to make the island itself a hot-spot that would feature a full hunting ladder, so people would just live there. Unfortunately that never happened.

Sorry to disagree with you, but I'm not blowing this out of proportion. If I go to a F2P account, I get exactly what I pay for when I pay for it. I can buy jumpy jewelry and immediately go anywhere I want to, if I also decide to pay for passports and I can buy a house too. If I stay Premium, I get to take 10-20 minutes to get to an area designed just for Premium accounts, where I did buy a house for which I'm already paying a substantial amount compared to other games and compared to F2P -- and yet I cannot access that house or hunt without adding 10-20 minutes wasted game time to access said house and hunting grounds. Further, if someone or somebodies abuse the game mechanics in Fang Cove, I who did not violate or abuse game mechanics get to pay for that by not having direct easy access. I work for a living and do not always get to play the game with an abundance of time. So now, if I want to go to Fang Cove, I get to add 10-20 minutes riding on an inconvenient smelly mammoth -- all of which I'm still paying for at a high rate for a Premium account versus F2P.

So tell me, do you really think I'm getting what I'm paying for by having a Premium Account? I stayed Premium for a very long time. For a very long time, there were not even monthly meetings, but I hung with it anyways. Because I would be traveling and had a high volume of work to be done in RL, I retired my account for a time. When I came back I was told by friends that things were changing for Premiums, i.e., more meetings, monthly gifts, etc. I was so happy to see Fang Cove portals open and operating in November and all the way through December. That's why I bought a house and started hunting and playing there - because I thought Simutronics finally understood we are paying for Fang Cove and deserve easy access. Now the portals are closed and I'm either going to have to buy jumpy jewelry (if it will even work for Fang Cove) and/or waste time getting there when I have precious little time to play. F2P is looking better all the time here == because I will get exactly what I pay for, unlike a premium account.

So, it stands -- I'm not getting what I paid for -- if F2P can buy what they want to enhance their game experience, why should I have to pay more in Premium fees when I do not have complete and total access to premium benefits?

And this is not some bug or big deal the GMs cannot fix right now. Even if they opened up a single portal from a single area, I would be happy. There is absolutely no reason Fang Cove cannot be opened to premium players all the time. If someone abuses it, bust them. It's common sense -- if you know what is being abused, you know WHO is abusing it.

Lorwryn

<<why should I have to pay more in Premium fees when I do not have complete and total access to premium benefits?

You do. There's nothing anywhere stating that the portals are to remain open 24 hours in order to provide you quick access from anywhere to Fang Cove. You could buy a house on Aesry and utilize a premium hunting area in Mus'pari and there's no obligation that they provide quick access between the two just because they're both premium benefits. If you don't think that that, along with all the other benefits that premium provides, is worth the money then you're free to not pay for it, but you are getting exactly what is advertised.

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So....here is my question.....

The rings have a what, 2-3 day cool down? If you have more than one ring, can they be rotated?

I also understand one must return within 30 min when using a ring? Could not that restriction be removed?

Just sayin......there are some interesting points being made here.

~Gab

>So tell me, do you really think I'm getting what I'm paying for by having a Premium Account?

<No one but you can answer that question. We can point out features to being premium but we cannot tell you if your enjoyment of the features warrants the cost.>

I don't know who you mean by "we" but if you work for Simu in any capacity, I would think that the "we" that matters are the people playing the game and paying $40+ bucks a month to pay. And if some of "we" the players (I'm not the only one taking issue with Fang Cove, just the only one brave enough to post evidently) are telling you that "we" are not enjoying the features because they do not warrant the cost -- then if you work for Simu maybe "We" Simu should be concerned and try to figure out how to answer the question as to whether or not the players are happy enough to keep playing and paying $40.00 bucks a month -- maybe that should be figured out before you loose customers and there is no longer a "we" for anyone to worry over anymore - players or employees. It's called Business Administration and Profit Expansion 101.

Because seriously, if you do work for Simu you really need to be concerned that premium costs = happy premium players. Otherwise F2P is all you will have left. Good luck with that.

>>a premium benefit, i.e., Fang Cove.
A portion of Fang Cove is a Premium benefit, the entire island is not Premium-exclusive. As with any housing area, travel TO the housing area is normal. Portals at this time are a convenience for events and special releases, which has been stated already, but it's clear you have no skill at reading comprehension so I'm repeating it in hopes that it'll get through.

>>monthly meetings that stopped years ago totally and completely with no meetings for almost 18 months
K, now I know you're trolling because there are meetings on the calendar for prime estate holder meetings. iirc it was stated that they would be quarterly.

>>and yet my premium payment did not lower in amount
LOL OK. The owner sets the prices. Want to talk to the owner? David Whatley is his name. I hope you don't expect him to care about anything but how much money ends up in his pocket. Honestly, insinuating that in game staff has personally refused to adjust pricing due to policy changes is rather ignorant.

>>I think I'm going to rather enjoy being a F2P player.
K, then do it and shut up already.

tl;dr
Stop whining and acting like any of this is new or specially made just to annoy you. The only thing you're managing to do is post a lot of nonsense that is just showing everyone how ignorant, self-centered, and unappreciative you are. But hey, I'm sure the people that donate their free time really enjoy all the negativity. I'm sure it really fuels them to change things, you know, just for you, right? Get over yourself.

People who are not outraged don't use the 'I'm leaving and taking my ball home with me' argument, nor do they post multiple paragraph long rants about it. Just saying.

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<People who are not outraged don't use the 'I'm leaving and taking my ball home with me' argument, nor do they post multiple paragraph long rants about it. Just saying.>

Or maybe people who say "I'm leaving and taking my ball home with me" are just smart enough to know when to quit because complaints/suggestions are now recognized as idle wasted words. And maybe multiple paragraphs are an attempt to explain the depth of what the complaint is all about.

Maybe people who can only quote policy, procedure and "that's the way it is", giving only the advice to make a suggestion due to the nature of thin skin, should not be in any type of customer service on behalf of their employer as nothing of probative value can be offered. Oh wait, you may not be a Simu employee in which case I understand your need to personally attack me -- the signal you've lost a verbal battle.

In that case, I do honestly apologize for having clearly upset you.

I don't think adding some sCoin JJs to FC would be all that terrible of an idea.

I disagree with the argument that FC is diminished because it doesn't have JJs right now, but it wouldn't hurt to add them.

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Uzmam! The Chairman will NOT be pleased to know you're trying to build outside of approved zones. I'd hate for you to be charged the taxes needed to have this place re-zoned. Head for the manor if you're feeling creative.

>so its not worth it for me to be premium or even bother playing given my limited time.

Sorry to hear that. I won't try to convince you otherwise, as its your decision and you should be spending time and money on things you enjoy! I understand a limited schedule as I've taken multi year breaks (busy with school) and even now my play time becomes nearly non existent over the summer when my work projects are in full swing. If you change your mind, more than likely we'll all still be here, and there's always the F2P option if you do find yourself with time to kill but don't want to put in a monthly monetary investment.

Jalika

Hi,

Please address the topic at hand and not each other. Keep the discussion constructive.

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For what it's worth, I almost never keep a premium subscription because the benefits are terrible. So I agree.

Just like the coin shop. Put stuff worth buying in and I will.

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