Yeah, it's ok but how did they get in if the door was latched? I drain in latched rooms when I travel, never had one invaded before.

Gizella

>>Sylvado>>Better to remove rest mode and require players to always be at the keyboard.

Better for people like you who like to just sit around and not gain anything, perhaps. Some of us like to train and would rather drain while afk anyway so our character's pools are empty and ready to train again when we return.

As for the original poster, I would recommend finding an out-of-the-way place and just hiding there, going into rest mode, and firing up an idler script to keep you form logging out. One that logs you out after so many minutes is even better. An example of such a script:

counter set 20
save start
if_1 counter set %1
goto counter_%c

counter_0:
echo *
echo *
echo * Parameter error!
echo *
echo * Defaulting to 20 repetitions
echo *
echo *
counter set 20

loop_start:
save run

loop_run:
echo *
echo * %c reps remaining
echo *
counter subtract 1
put exp
pause 180
goto loop_%c

loop_0:
put quit
exit

labelError:
goto loop_%s

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The above script will log you out after 20 3-miinute periods unless you give it something other than the default such as:

>.logout 30

The above would run it (assuming you called it logout.cmd when you saved it) and go to 30 reps, an hour and a half, before logging you out. That script is written for the Wizard, my Genie version is a bit better since Genie has better script commands like an actual IF...THEN statement so I don't have to fake it with %s and labelError. Plus triggers to catch it if I die (never know when an invasion critter might show up) and log me out immediately.

~~~Krin
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
"Goblins ... aisle 6, Mycthengelde ... hunt smart, hunt S-Mart!"
"You whine like a mule ... you are still alive!"
"Call me Snake."

If you can think and/or use magic in a room while it's "latched", it doesn't stay latched and in the "old" days inn rooms didn't stay latched. So, just check that. Even barbs can type "POWER" or "PERCEIVE" and see if it is stopped I believe.

I am --- Navak

<<I have two words for you. REAL ESTATE.>>

Or maybe they need a quick dip in a very cold pond, or river.

I've spent many a time, while traveling or before I bought my house, sleeping in inn rooms. That's what I was told they were for (besides the occasional romp) and never once was I told that it is using limited resources. If I couldn't find an available room I found a very quiet, very out of the way place to sleep.

The original poster might want to double check tho, next time, that the latch on the door is indeed latched. I always latch and unlatch a few times just to be sure. And if it happens again, possibly bug the door latch or report the offender.


~Tykyra~

Vorclaf says to Raenilar, "Are you waiting for an invitation to be seated, or do you wish to conquer it first."

There is absolutely nothing wrong with putting yourself in an inn room, latching the door, going into 'sleep' mode and 'rest' mode and leaving yourself there. Your experience is being drained and you aren't learning anything new. The latch on the door is to allow a person privacy, no matter what it is they are doing. So please do not even go there about RP'ing being asleep. That's just laughable.


~Tykyra~

Vorclaf says to Raenilar, "Are you waiting for an invitation to be seated, or do you wish to conquer it first."

RP Being Asleep?

You mean like ignoring everyone and everything and not moving, even when being dragged about?

The victum should of reported first and asked questions later, and if they were truely a hide away scripter, turned the offending person into a crater the size of at least new brunzwick.

The Fact of the matter is. REST MODE, which is provided by SIMU for the PURPOSE OF RESTING, to clear all skills. If your character isn't in harms way or annoying someone, which snoring does, if that's the RP you mean, you(THE PC) are paying for that time, and letting your character, stand, sit, lie, about in a locked room(which was probably picked by the horney offender) doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is within POLICY. So please, go read the policy. And leave sleeping character's lay about.

If, during this time, they choose to ignore they're character in a potentionally dangerous location, such as infront of the bank during an invasion, they're paying for that character, so MYOB. Their death won't count on your death counter.

You should only worry if they're scripting magic or lore or survival or anything else. Not resting in the POLICY APPROVED, FE built In REST MODE.

Ok, I'm sleeping now, so what am I going to do?

X>to you "hey, want to go hunt?"

X>to you "hey are you asleep?"

X>to you "You can't do that, even though your not moveing or teaching or any other intentional skill learning, so I'm going to drag you into fen's and let you get killed.

!ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!

Wrong Awnser!

This is against policy to harrase sleeping characters who are in no way violating policy. It is not policy for a character to force antoher character to respond.

It is not Required by anyone or anything to even look at you if you talk to them. Especially if you pick a lock to enter a room where they are. So please, Take your RP sleeping and go read the policies.

Not to be violent or anything. But GEEZE. a locked room is a locked room, and not everyone has 30+ dollars to throw away to be able to afford a ig home. Considering it only takes 20-30 minutes to clear even a low wiz/int mind. The dragger was out of line and should of been forced to read the policies as well.

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.srats eht esahc sevlow ,eerf nur snrocinu erehW

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<<So please, go read the policy

Never have, never will read the policy, simple courtesy is much more effective.


Sylvado

"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."

Well since you won't read it I'll put it here for you...

This is from Policy 16 - Scripting Policy:
Exceptions: In general, if you are running a script or are in Rest Mode and are not gaining any new experience, skills, money, or an in-game advantage, it does not fall under this policy. Being AFK or in Rest Mode while absorbing experience you have already gained is not a violation of this policy. Passively acquiring new experience, such as listening to teaching, or being in a heavily populated area to gain perception while AFK is considered a violation.

<<Never have, never will read the policy, simple courtesy is much more effective.>>

Yes, simple courtesy would have been good in the situation of the original poster. The person who dragged them out of the inn room should have showed some courtesy and left the person who was sleeping alone.

~Tykyra~

Vorclaf says to Raenilar, "Are you waiting for an invitation to be seated, or do you wish to conquer it first."

<<Never have, never will read the policy, simple courtesy is much more effective.

Would it be simple courtesy to read policy before discussing it? Not that it matters, I'm sure there isn't much of policy that hasn't been posted on boards you do read so whether or not you actually read it from official documents, I imagine you've picked up most of it from the boards.

I read policy because having agreed to abide by it, simple courtesy required it of me. :-P

~The player of Nevynral

Thank you all for your responses!

I was pretty sure I had a right to sleep in that room, but the two people in there seemed pretty determined to make it sound like it was my fault for being there. I think the latched door IS a bug because I scrolled back to look and yes indeed I had latched it. For anyone curious as to which room it was, it was at the Inn just a few rooms west of the Bank in Crossing. I don't remember the name of the exact room, but it's the one with the crystal door and an extra blue door to the balcony. Also...when I woke up and re-entered the room, I'm guessing they had latched it too and was surprised to have me discover them both laying down on the balcony. I was tempted to report him for dragging me, but then I thought perhaps I didn't remember the policy correctly. I read it again and then posted here because the policy doesn't really go into detail as to whether you can rest in a locked room or not. Again, thank you all for your input and honesty.

To a few that mentioned going to a safe room to hide instead of an Inn, I did that once before and found myself naked in the temple when I woke up. I had been hiding in a "safe" room in rest mode and also in sleep mode, and it was even in a remote area. Regardless, someone dragged me out, I somehow died and I lost about 30 plat worth of items that I was never able to recover. So those that think that's a good idea...just a heads up.

For any that think I wasted space, well, I'm a person that spends a LOT of time RP'ing, rather that just trying to be a circle freak, so when I do train and want to rest a while and drain some of that experience, I have the right to do so. That's why my biggest character is still only 51 circles after 4 years in the game. Since I'm not abusing the game in any way by doing so, I think I earned the right, don't you? smiles

Once more thanks!

<<Yes, simple courtesy would have been good in the situation of the original poster. The person who dragged them out of the inn room should have showed some courtesy and left the person who was sleeping alone.


I agree with that. I never said it was right to drag, I just said that if you are not at the keyboard you should log out. As a ranger I would never have a need for a room at the inn anyway. If someone wanted to use the room they wouldn't have been able to and I don't think that is right. I don't think it is right for someone to drive in the left lane when not passing but I wouldn't drive them off of the road for it.


Sylvado

"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."

<<Policy != Courtesy
<<Policy = Rules

<<Very different concepts, Sylvado.

I agree, but with courtesy there is no need for policy. I have no in game warnings on my record.



Sylvado

"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."

51 circles in four years!? You are trying to circle,see, I only have 30 after six! And five of those in response to the new combat mechanics! Go Combat!

Also, from now on, in a safe room, Avoid everything and stand up. Laying down makes it easier to overcome the avoid drag. I think anyone who drags someone into a combat zone knowing that person is afk, WETHER OR NOT they are violating policy, should be locked out themselves, and forced to read and resign the policy before they log back in.
Murder is murder is murder is murder is murder.

Wether it is your hand or someone elses you enlist in doing it. That's why there is a conspiriacy to commit murder law in the real world. A person who drags someone who is afk should be locked out for consparicy to commit murder, or at least fined and jailed as if they commited a murder. I mean how hard is this.

Guard sees X drags an unresponsive Y out the gate. (dragging being the trigger action) Y dies. X returns, with or without Y and is arrested for conspiracy and fined with murder.

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.srats eht esahc sevlow ,eerf nur snrocinu erehW

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>>To a few that mentioned going to a safe room to hide instead of an Inn, I did that once before and found myself naked in the temple when I woke up. I had been hiding in a "safe" room in rest mode and also in sleep mode, and it was even in a remote area. Regardless, someone dragged me out, I somehow died and I lost about 30 plat worth of items that I was never able to recover. So those that think that's a good idea...just a heads up.

One of the great advantages of having a home or knowing a friend who lets you crash in his/her home. Nobody but the GMs and your friend can even reach you if you're inside a home, and the GMs will leave you alone if you aren't doing anything wrong (well, they might nag you to go do something or perhaps just log you off but they won't drag you out into a hunting grounds to die or expose you to the privations of other characters).

J'Lo, no that other one

<<I just said that if you are not at the keyboard you should log out>>

What it boils down to is this is your opinion. However, policy states otherwise and many, many players will go by what policy says and will keep themselves logged in (while in sleep and rest mode) in an inn room (for those who can't afford to pay the $30 a month for a home). Your opinion doesn't always necessarily mean that it's right.

<<If someone wanted to use the room they wouldn't have been able to and I don't think that is right>>

Tough noogies. If someone is so hot to trot to satisfy their libido they'll just have to find someplace else to do it. Or like was stated earlier, take a very cold dip in the brook. Inn rooms are there for whoever want to use them and take as much time to use them as they want. Otherwise the inn keepers would have the rooms on a timer and would boot the parties out after so much time.

~Tykyra~

Vorclaf says to Raenilar, "Are you waiting for an invitation to be seated, or do you wish to conquer it first."

>>>I agree, but with courtesy there is no need for policy. I have no in game warnings on my record.

And neither do I.

Amagaim; the player of,

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Keep your chin up. You'll look tougher than you are. You'll also be accused of having an "attitude." Punch them in the groin and tell them you don't HAVE an attitude.

---Signs Of Your Life, Hentaraen 3, 3