First of all...wow! Glad to be back finally...I've been gone for a LOOOOONG time, but F2P DR is more than enough to get me back.

So, what are the limitations to a F2P account?

Is there a post anywhere with the information? I searched but couldn't find one.

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Here you are, all the information in one link:

https://elanthipedia.play.net/mediawiki/index.php/Free_accounts

If you have not played in awhile, check out the rest of Elanthipedia for what's changed!

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All of the limitations are listed in the links that were posted above.

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>>What does everyone think is a good guild for a F2P player considering the limitations?

Any, even Moon Mage, which people are weirdly treating like lepers in f2p, which is crazy. My longest-running character (not highest level, but most hours played and over the longest span of time) was a Moonie, and over his lifetime I'd be willing to bet that upwards of 90% of his moongates/teleports were within province. Also, it isn't that freebs can't leave Zoluren, you just need to get a passport, which are literally like $5 for a 3-month pass, or in other words, virtually no money at all.

Just go with the guild you want to play. I'm currently a freeb Bard and having a freaking blast.

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Thanks Absolon. I hadn't switched to threaded view in the forums so I couldn't see the replies.

Got it now.

Those are some substantial limitations, but I think I can work with them....after all free is FREE. :) Better than the $40/month I was paying back in the day during my first incarnations.

The significant limitation on the teleportation, travel, and storage abilities that Moon Mages have makes some people think they're not worth playing as a f2p player. Moon Mages do have other abilities, but the above ones are typically seen as the marquee ones for the guild because of their uniqueness and utility. It probably doesn't help those people's opinions that almost all of the other things a Moon Mage can do can also be done by any other guild. E.g. Without teleportation and storage, there's not a heck of a lot of difference between a Warrior Mage and a Moon Mage except for theme, and WMs are far better at combat so might as well go with that instead.

I don't necessarily agree with that sentiment entirely, but I can see where it would be coming from.

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> The significant limitation on the teleportation, travel, and storage abilities that Moon Mages have makes some people think they're not worth playing as a f2p player.

Is it really a significant limitation? (serious question, I don't know). I thought your teleport/gate/travel spells will work so long as you have the passport, which is frankly very cheap. If you're going full F2P then the spells don't matter anyway, but teleportation spells like contingency are amazing.

The only big drawback in my mind is the lack of shadow servant. They should unlock that spell if you purchase vault access.

>>Any, even Moon Mage, which people are weirdly treating like lepers in f2p, which is crazy.

>Could you expand on that statement?

Gladly!

My longest-running character (not highest level, but most hours played and over the longest span of time) was a Moonie, and over his lifetime I'd be willing to bet that upwards of 90% of his moongates/teleports were within province. Also, it isn't that freebs can't leave Zoluren, you just need to get a passport, which are literally like $5 for a 3-month pass, or in other words, virtually no money at all.

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You need to access the astral plane by using an astral guide during the quest to unlock it the ability. Ergo, no astral plane ability.

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<<I find it plausible that that astral guide plays by different rules, and is possibly not implemented as an astral guide.

It can be passed on to other players who can then make use of it exactly like they would with any other astral guide. E.g. this quest astral guide is the only way for Bards to reach one of their evokes. It focuses exactly like a normal astral guide, comes with charges like a normal astral guide, and can even fail to work if you don't have enough skill exactly like with any other astral guide.

I.e. I am willing to bet that it is actually an astral guide, and not some quest-wonkery made to emulate one.

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But wait, I keep hearing that walking the astral plane is the main way to train astrology once you unlock that ability--a f2p account can't learn it at all?

<<But wait, I keep hearing that walking the astral plane is the main way to train astrology once you unlock that ability--a f2p account can't learn it at all?

Once an hour, walking the astral plane will mostly lock your astrology. It's dangerous, but a slightly convenient and lazy way to train it. It's certainly not the only way.

Other ways include:
1. Observe constellations every 2 to 4 minutes based on whenever you get the message that you're ready to observe again, and when a prediction pool is full do a prediction. That will get you ~17/34 worth of experience just from the prediction alone.
2. Predict analyze every 90 seconds while at least one prediction is active. Works well in conjunction with #1, particularly if you start off with a weak prediction to get things going and using analyze to keep it moving while you build up a full pool.
3. Cast Tezirah's Veil either at a creature or without a target. Casting it on a single creature can be done approximately every 20 seconds due to the duration. Casting without a target will also teach and doesn't have the cooldown.
4. Cast Tezirah's Veil on yourself and do a prediction with the resulting prophetic insight. This only works well if you know an empath willing to ignore the fact that you are casting high sorcery or are okay with running between your non-justice casting spot and an NPC healer every 3 or 4 casts. Predicting either after every cast or after every time you get healed will quickly train astrology.

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I see. I just assumed that predicting capped out at some point, but it's good to know that scales.

There's a lot to the moon mage guild--I think a f2p player could definitely enjoy it, possibly purchasing a passport or two depending on how invested they are in things like sects. So many lovely spells and abilities, not just teleportation.

<<How well does this teach? Makes me want to forget enough to open five spell slots and try it.

Not very well. In the time it takes to lock sorcery, it will get astrology to about 9 to 11 or so. #4 with an empath, however, is the fastest way to lock astrology I have found. The trade offs are pretty hefty though.

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<<Will the limitations hit a Paladin really hard? That guild was always one I considered.

I think Paladins only have to worry about a couple of quested glyphs and your holy weapon, none of which are super mandatory. There's already a temporary visa in place for some other guild abilities, and I expect Paladin ones will follow eventually. Even so, you only need to buy a couple of passports to collect them currently.

Prayer badges which require travelling to all provinces, while nice, are not mandatory by any means.

I don't think there's anything else that would significantly limit a Paladin any more than it would limit any other guild.

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Very nice, then Paladin it is. :) They have some good abilities and quests...plus some crafting ability as well.

Thanks everyone.

> Paladins aren't really restricted by F2P except for a few ability quests that you'd need to purchase temporary passports for.


You don't even need to do that any more. They can get a free pass to pick up the quests, and the quests are easy enough that they shouldn't have any problem.

Paladins are one of the guilds that are in a great place for F2P.

<<Have paladins been set up for that yet? Only a few quests for clerics and warrior mages have been from my understanding.

This, although this is the list of temporary visa abilities:
Warrior Mages - The Pathway Quests in Throne City (This is currently the ONLY pathway quest with a visa. For all other pathway quests, ask for a new one every 2 hours until you get one in Zoluren.)
Clerics - Infusion, Resurrection, Murrula's Flames, and Truffenyi
Thieves - Signs, Ambushes

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Hello! Another returning player here. It's been many, many years since I last visited the realms. One of the reasons I left was that I could no longer justify the steep monthly pricetag, and I traded Elanthia for Hydaelyn. When I discovered DR had a free tier now, I couldn't talk myself out of at least peeking in. So now I have a shiny new cleric learning the ropes. So much has changed! Many of the things for the better, though I have to say I sorta miss the old combo system. There are a lot of things I have yet to try out, but if this sticks, I don't plan on staying a completely free account. So I have some questions that I'll just tack on here instead of starting a new thread.

Bank Booster: One of the things I plan to keep permanently boosted once I get to that point is the bank limit. Because I already know 10 plat isn't going to be enough to partake of the player crafted goods out there. My question regarding this is, if I buy the boost, and it reaches the end of its timer, what happens to the coin that's over 10 plat in the bank? Is it possible to activate another bank boost and stack it before the previous one expires?

Vaults: My character is quite a ways off from affording one regardless, but I haven't seen any mention of them on the lists. Are free accounts able to access one? I assume there are limitations if so.

Convert: Not exactly a question, but I see it's currently an unplanned possibility, so I'm going to go ahead and voice support for it as a fledgeling cleric. I understand that carving our beads still relies on the some-day-obsolete mech lore? It bothers me some that I'll be throwing experience at it that will one day be useless, and I'd be willing to buy a one time pass to ensure it isn't all rendered wasted effort when bead carving gets added to a crafting system.

You can get a pass to have access to vaults, otherwise you won't have access.

Learning mech isn't throwing it away. You can convert Mech experience into any Crafting lore once.