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LAQUE2

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Is Vote! 10/03/2015 09:27 AM CDT

http://www.topmudsites.com/vote-DragonRealms.html

:( 6th, 80/53

Illimin

ABSOLON

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Re: Is Vote! 10/03/2015 09:58 AM CDT

Why start a new thread each and every time? If you're going to post a vote reminder, please use the same thread to do it in.

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LAQUE2

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Re: Is Vote! 10/04/2015 06:40 AM CDT

I don't guess I have a problem with that beyond that I've always done it that way, I didn't actually realize there was a thread setup now on the forums, and that it'd probably be easier to ignore a single thread from me than a new, easy to click on to vote thread on a daily basis. Shrug. That being said...

Is vote!

http://www.topmudsites.com/vote-DragonRealms.html

4th! 118/77

At least we can say it's effective, ya?

Illimin

ABSOLON

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Re: Is Vote! 10/04/2015 07:03 AM CDT

It's not that it's easier to ignore... we just end up with this when looking at the threads: http://tinypic.com/r/15eburm/8 The folder would essentially just become a whole bunch of single post threads with exactly the same thing in them.

Starting a new thread each month isn't bad, but a new thread with a single post daily is a bit much.

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SQUANTO

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Re: Is Vote! 10/04/2015 07:57 AM CDT

Also, the game reminds you to vote every time you log in. It even comes with a clickable link!

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LAQUE2

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Re: Is Vote! 10/04/2015 11:22 AM CDT

That part I'm aware of. Numbers don't lie, this is more effective(we've averaged 40 clicks a day since I started this up again). Abs just gave me the suggestion to thread it so you should be able to ignore this whole thing with a single click if it makes you unhappy, so I'm not going to stress it.

Illimin

CHUNGUS

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Re: Is Vote! 10/04/2015 01:01 PM CDT

<<Also, the game reminds you to vote every time you log in. It even comes with a clickable link!>>

The reminder is easily lost in login spam and isn't clickable in all FEs :(

TEVESHSZAT

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Re: Is Vote! 10/04/2015 02:48 PM CDT

>>Abs just gave me the suggestion to thread it so you should be able to ignore this whole thing with a single click if it makes you unhappy, so I'm not going to stress it.

AFAIK, it's more that if you're looking through the archives in threaded view you will see one collapsed thread vs multiple.

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LAQUE2

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Re: Is Vote! 10/05/2015 06:26 AM CDT

http://www.topmudsites.com/vote-DragonRealms.html

5th :( 153/102

Illimin

LAQUE2

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Re: Is Vote! 10/06/2015 06:55 AM CDT

http://www.topmudsites.com/vote-DragonRealms.html

4th :) 193/129

Illimin

LAQUE2

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Re: Is Vote! 10/07/2015 06:22 AM CDT

http://www.topmudsites.com/vote-DragonRealms.html

4th 238/164

Illimin

LAQUE2

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Re: Is Vote! 10/08/2015 06:21 AM CDT

http://www.topmudsites.com/vote-DragonRealms.html

4th! 272/184

Illimin

LAQUE2

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Re: Is Vote! 10/09/2015 06:58 AM CDT

http://www.topmudsites.com/vote-DragonRealms.html

4th! 308/205

Illimin

LAQUE2

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Re: Is Vote! 10/10/2015 07:49 AM CDT

http://www.topmudsites.com/vote-DragonRealms.html

4th! 356/258 Only 13 votes back from 3rd!

Illimin

ABSOLON

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Re: Is Vote! 10/10/2015 11:40 AM CDT

9 away from 3rd now. And I think Aardwolf must be a cult. I can't explain their devotion to remaining #1 month after month any other way.

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BADGOPHER

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Re: Is Vote! 10/10/2015 02:22 PM CDT

>9 away from 3rd now. And I think Aardwolf must be a cult. I can't explain their devotion to remaining #1 month after month any other way.

Clickthrough incentives which don't 'technically' violate the rules has always been my explanation. There's simply no other way to explain it in the real world. They start the month at a level higher than most people even reach.

CHUNGUS

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Re: Is Vote! 10/10/2015 05:51 PM CDT

They own the website. Rules don't apply to them.

ABSOLON

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Re: Is Vote! 10/10/2015 06:18 PM CDT

1 vote away from being tied for 3rd, 2 votes from taking it btw....

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POPWEASEL

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Re: Is Vote! 10/10/2015 07:08 PM CDT

Tied at third now.

-Dartellum Waddle

VAGELO

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Re: Is Vote! 10/11/2015 12:15 AM CDT

Third, ahead by 1 vote.

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POPWEASEL

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Re: Is Vote! 10/11/2015 07:31 AM CDT

403 votes, ahead by three.

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BADGOPHER

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Re: Is Vote! 10/11/2015 09:23 AM CDT

>They own the website. Rules don't apply to them.

I thought this was a joke, but it's not.

The company who owns Aardwolf (Lasher) owns and operates the Topmudsites URL.

What a crock of piss. Of course they're always number one by stupid margins. If I had direct DBA rights my left bicep would win every month too.

TEVESHSZAT

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Re: Is Vote! 10/11/2015 11:10 AM CDT

Considering we've never broken #2 I think it's sour grapes to decide #1 is cheating.

We're not #1 because we have a small population of voters compared to our player base. Case closed. They had years of getting people trained to vote daily.

BADGOPHER

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Re: Is Vote! 10/11/2015 12:33 PM CDT

>Considering we've never broken #2 I think it's sour grapes to decide #1 is cheating.

Considering they own the website and have a very vested interest in pushing their own product, calling it 'sour grapes' to point out these things is deliberately misleading at best.

When Exon advertises that it has the best gas in the world as decided by a panel of judges, it's somewhat important to know if all of those judges were Exon employees.

LAQUE2

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Re: Is Vote! 10/11/2015 01:30 PM CDT

http://www.topmudsites.com/vote-DragonRealms.html

back to 4th. 420/270. Behind by 1 vote.

Illimin

FLINT-TIPPED

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Re: Is Vote! 10/11/2015 04:12 PM CDT

Who cares? For a couple clicks a day we potentially get the attention of players looking for a new mud to try. Complaining about it on the DR forums isn't going to inluence who owns a 3rd party website or help us climb the ladder.

Vote:
http://www.topmudsites.com/vote-DragonRealms.html

TEVESHSZAT

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Re: Is Vote! 10/11/2015 05:02 PM CDT

>>Considering they own the website and have a very vested interest in pushing their own product, calling it 'sour grapes' to point out these things is deliberately misleading at best.

As I said, we're not even at #2, so claiming that we're not #1 (and that they are) doesn't mean anything right now. We can't break past all the others that don't have some potential "they're cheating!" setup.

BADGOPHER

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Re: Is Vote! 10/11/2015 06:11 PM CDT

>As I said, we're not even at #2, so claiming that we're not #1

Never made that claim.

My claim was 'no wonder they are #1 every month by significant margins, they own the data and the formulas and the database (etc.)'.

No other claims, assertions, or such were made.

TEVESHSZAT

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Re: Is Vote! 10/11/2015 10:16 PM CDT

>>My claim was 'no wonder they are #1 every month by significant margins, they own the data and the formulas and the database (etc.)'.

I feel it's pretty obvious that the line of thought is "it's obvious that we're not #1 because ::insert reasons of assumed cheating::"

My counterpoint to the assumption/accusation is that it comes off as sour grapes given the lack of proof beyond deciding that since they run it, they're cheating. Beyond that, it's a bit silly to be annoyed over not being #1 when we can't even beat the assumed "legitimate" competition, as well.

DR-ANNWYL

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Re: Is Vote!::NUDGE:: 10/11/2015 11:17 PM CDT

OK, that's enough with the bickering. Let's move along, please!

Annwyl
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ABSOLON

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Re: Is Vote!::NUDGE:: 10/12/2015 01:11 AM CDT

I think it'd be okay start a new thread now. ;)

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ISHARON

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Re: Is Vote! 10/12/2015 01:27 AM CDT

>>Chungus: They own the website. Rules don't apply to them.

The revelation that Aardwolf owns Top Mud Sites has definitely dampened my enthusiasm for voting. Even if there is no proof that Aardwolf is cheating, at the very least, there is a conflict of interest between running an independent ranking site and wanting to promote your own game.

>>Teveshszat: My counterpoint to the assumption/accusation is that it comes off as sour grapes given the lack of proof beyond deciding that since they run it, they're cheating. Beyond that, it's a bit silly to be annoyed over not being #1 when we can't even beat the assumed "legitimate" competition, as well.

Here is a plugin for MUSHclient that appears to automate (or at least aggressively prompt) voting for Aardwolf on Top Mud Sites and Mud Connector.

https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/source/browse/trunk/Bast/miniwin_vote.xml?r=1451

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SQUANTO

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Re: Is Vote! 10/12/2015 05:27 AM CDT

>>Here is a plugin for MUSHclient that appears to automate (or at least aggressively prompt) voting for Aardwolf on Top Mud Sites and Mud Connector.<<

I was actually wondering if this is what they were doing.

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