Question 10/31/2006 08:52 PM CST
Does stuff like lightening bolt and fireball hurt incorp undead?




Magic's Death Caraamon Majerye,
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Re: Question 10/31/2006 09:04 PM CST
No.

Though I haven't tested it, it's possible that a cleric/paladin could naphtha them and then someone else could set them on fire.

I am --- Navak
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Re: Question 10/31/2006 09:20 PM CST
All my WM spells simply fail due to the undead incoporeal state, even when I use gargantuan amounts of mana. Some spells like MAB and Ball Lightning tend to cast alright, but then the projectiles right through them. So no I don't think you can ever affect incorporeal undead with non-clerical magic.

As for naptha, throwing it tends to make the vial go right through them from what I remember. I've not tried to splash them though... but I doubt it'd have any decent results.

This is why we need blessed naptha! And umm.. enchanted flame swords that are blessed! :chuckle:




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Re: Question 10/31/2006 09:24 PM CST
>>So no I don't think you can ever affect incorporeal undead with non*-*clerical magic.

Non-holy. Paladin magic works fine.

~Aeth
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Re: Question 10/31/2006 09:57 PM CST
Only holy magic can hurt noncorpereal undead. Or blessed weapons- which is, after all, an exercise in holy magic. Now, other magics can be used to buff you up- which is great if you're dealing with some of these unholy parry-gods.

Ryeka


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Re: Question 10/31/2006 10:34 PM CST
Good, then I don't feel at all bad to lose roars against undead, if that should happen.

However, I would like to point out an assumption that seemed to have been made by at least one poster during the roars vs. undead discussion (yes I'm really late on this). Blessed weapons don't have to be "good" as I would expect the blessings of an "evil" face to work just as well. At least that's my take on it.




Magic's Death Caraamon Majerye,
Gor'Tog Barbarian Extrordi...Well somewhat average
Hunta Talna Kortok, built by Gor'Togs, for Gor'Togs
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/caraamon/home.html
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Re: Question 11/01/2006 10:52 AM CST
>>As for naptha, throwing it tends to make the vial go right through them from what I remember.

Paladins with good soul state and clerics get blessed brawling. Brawl, throw should make it a blessed projectile in theory.

I haven't tested it to see how it all interacts myself.

I am --- Navak
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