Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/28/2011 10:34 AM CDT
So I've been trying to move to lang for brocket deer for quite a while now... but it always seems like I'm not at the right spot for them, defense wise, and I can't understand why.

I've seen them given as suggestions for people with very similar combats to mine, but currently, young deer don't teach me any defense at all, and 3 normal deer beat the hell out of me in seconds. What am I doing wrong?!

Shield Usage: 159 Leather Armor: 158
Light Chain: 120 Parry Ability: 146
Multi Opponent: 159 Medium Edged: 140
Twohanded Blunt: 143 Light Thrown: 135
Evasion: 160

Agil and Str 22, Reflex 26. Insignificantly hindered, no encumberance, dancing badger.
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Re: Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/28/2011 11:01 AM CDT
What's your stance?
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Re: Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/28/2011 11:22 AM CDT
You are currently using 100% of your evasion skill.
You are currently using 80% of your shield block skill.
You are currently using 3% of your weapon parry skill.
You are attacking with 100% of your offensive skill.
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Re: Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/28/2011 12:16 PM CDT
I would recommend pulling in 1 or 2 cougars and then just killing the deer that come in. Of course if you are constantly kililng deer then one cougar would probably be good enough as that would leave 2 deer actively attacking you while you keep smashing the third.

I have the same reflex as you but my defenses are just shy of 170 and 4 deer will hit me. Of course I am a Bard wearing HC/HP. :)
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Re: Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/28/2011 06:32 PM CDT
Sheath I had a similar issue with a barbarian at those ranks, Deer can hit a little hard for a barbarian at times even with the dance buff up. Try hunting in the pec area (I assume you want to stay in Theren) and get your stats just a smidge higher and you'll be able to work the middle deers.
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Re: Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/28/2011 07:07 PM CDT
Circle apparently figures into multi-opponent penalties, which I imagine makes deer harder for barbs.
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Re: Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/28/2011 11:55 PM CDT
Hm - that's interesting, if multi takes circle into account, that's probably the issue, since at 30 I'd guess I'm just about the lowest circle there.

Thanks for the advice on peccs, went and tried a couple of them this evening and they locked stuff real quick. Looks like I can finally stick around!
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Re: Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/29/2011 02:11 AM CDT
<<Circle apparently figures into multi-opponent penalties, which I imagine makes deer harder for barbs.>>

Really? That sounds very weird. Anything to back this up?
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Re: Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/29/2011 02:18 AM CDT
GM statements. It is weird, and they admit as much.

http://www.elanthipedia.com/wiki/Post:Area_spawn_cap-_game_wide_problem_when_PCs_dance_with_4._-_6/21/2009_-_2:34:53
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Re: Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/29/2011 02:18 AM CDT
> Anything to back this up?

http://elanthipedia.com/wiki/Post:Open_up_the_Circle_Cap_-_3/18/2011_-_16:04:02
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Re: Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/29/2011 02:30 AM CDT
Thanks! And just wow.. Circle/level is a crucial part of MO calcs.
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Re: Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/29/2011 08:17 AM CDT
<<Thanks! And just wow.. Circle/level is a crucial part of MO calcs.

Part of why it's going away. The other reason is they're tired of listening to Barbs complain.
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Re: Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/29/2011 08:33 AM CDT
Complain? The only complaint I have with multi is that it caps learning well before defenses so while circling it requires you to backtrain it some every time you move up. And even that's really easy to fix.
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Re: Brocket deer - what am I doin wrong 07/29/2011 09:27 AM CDT
>>http://elanthipedia.com/wiki/Post:Open_up_the_Circle_Cap_-_3/18/2011_-_16:04:02

Holy cow!

I had no clue. I was always wondering why it seemed like my Barbarian had a tougher time with multiple opponents at similar skill levels w/o buffs, even though he's supposedly much better at melee.

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