Suggestions for new patterns with unconventional coverage 03/28/2016 10:05 PM CDT

So I've been analyzing possible armor combinations lately. I really like it when there are differences in coverage topology. It adds some intricacy to the system and allows for interesting combinations. Plate armor definitely offers the most flexibility / unique choices. In this light, I have a few pattern suggestions to add some coverage options to the other armor types.

Suggestions for new patterns:
(coverage) (pattern) (armor types) (notes) (example pictures)
abdomen and legs battle skirt leather or brigandine Comes down the whole leg not just the thigh like a tasset. http://imgur.com/63S9ghp
abdomen and legs surcoats bone or lamellar Heavier version of battle skirt. http://imgur.com/ruYh3Y0 http://imgur.com/bG5VYU8
chest and abdomen surcoat (alternative) bone or lamellar Put head through a hole and it falls down your chest like a long bib. http://imgur.com/PbmAe6B
arms and back capelet (maybe pelisse) cloth or leather Opens over chest, so it is not quite the same as a mantle. Also collarless. Comes down to just past the elbows. http://imgur.com/Sn9W57R
back backplate leather or brigandine Alternatives to backing plate chest pieces.
head and eyes spectacle helmet leather or bone Would also fit for light plate, but we already have bascinets. leather: http://imgur.com/9HLYp7J kind of looks like bone: http://imgur.com/t8RWo8q
eyes and neck veil cloth, leather, ring, or chain Hangs from helm or cap in front of face (with a slit or eye holes for opaque material). http://imgur.com/4Ynun80 http://imgur.com/tfsDQMo http://imgur.com/IrKTSj9
head neck and arms skirted helmet lamellar Could also leave neck open in front to allow for aventail or veil. http://imgur.com/j0vOybE or open like http://i.imgur.com/UgQGEzh.jpg


I also wanted to suggest adding a few stone patterns only for lamellar armor. These would not use all metal lamellar patterns due to heavyness, only ones that are drapey or in one solid piece.
(head neck) hood, (arms) pauldrons, (abdomen) tasset, (chest back) vest, (torso) tabard, (torso legs) robe. Example: http://imgur.com/ILsVzIs

I know these suggestions are a lot less uniform than the existing patterns, but that is what I like about them.
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Re: Suggestions for new patterns with unconventional coverage 03/31/2016 02:13 PM CDT
i do the singular place pieces. its a pain in the rump.

the backplate and the fauld are wonky in that the backplate will not let you wear a backpack with one (but carryalls work) and the fauld (tummy protector) eats up a belt spot.

most folks shy away from the weird variants because of interchangeability with the standard full armor, gloves, coat pants bit.

Sleeves remove the ability to wear gloves ect ect.

singular pieces are great, the rarer templates like sleeves (arms and hands) and mantle (neck chest back?) can pidgeon hole you with what you can mix and match with it. it does sound cool, but winds up just making things messy and complicated.

-Munch-
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Re: Suggestions for new patterns with unconventional coverage 03/31/2016 02:55 PM CDT
>>the backplate and the fauld are wonky in that the backplate will not let you wear a backpack with one (but carryalls work) and the fauld (tummy protector) eats up a belt spot.

Might wanna try that again, I have no issues wearing a backplate and a backpack, and wear a fauld fine with 4 things attached to my belt.

Samsaren
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Re: Suggestions for new patterns with unconventional coverage 03/31/2016 03:09 PM CDT
>Might wanna try that again, I have no issues wearing a backplate and a backpack, and wear a fauld fine with 4 things attached to my belt.<

How long have you been doing this? Last time I checked, the backplate occupied the same slot as a backpack and therefore you could not wear both. This was confirmed by a GM during an assist. Is it possible that your backpack is generally worn or some other weird variant?

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Re: Suggestions for new patterns with unconventional coverage 03/31/2016 03:12 PM CDT
blah blah - backpack can be worn on the back.

a vardite pavise shield emblazoned with animite inlay
a damite mail balaclava
a heavy damite backplate
a damite heavy breastplate
some damite lamellar vambraces
some damite lamellar gloves
a damite heavy plate fauld
some insulated grey titanese pants

Samsaren
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Re: Suggestions for new patterns with unconventional coverage 03/31/2016 05:55 PM CDT
<How long have you been doing this? Last time I checked, the backplate occupied the same slot as a backpack and therefore you could not wear both. This was confirmed by a GM during an assist. Is it possible that your backpack is generally worn or some other weird variant?>

I had a hard time doing that about a week ago. Then it just started working. It told me I was already wearing something on my back I believe. Then I did some things (it's a little foggy, maybe I removed one and wore the other) and it started working.

At first I thought maybe I typed backp instead of backpack/backplate and it got confused but maybe it's related to the bug you're pointing out.
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Re: Suggestions for new patterns with unconventional coverage 03/31/2016 07:38 PM CDT


I can't speak to the backpack issue, but I can confirm that a fauld eats up a waist slot - which is very unintuitive, since a jerkin (which includes abdomen as part of its slots) does not. This is very frustrating for newer players.
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Re: Suggestions for new patterns with unconventional coverage 03/31/2016 10:18 PM CDT
the backpack bit does seem to have changed

-Munch-
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Re: Suggestions for new patterns with unconventional coverage 03/31/2016 10:20 PM CDT
You put a damite plate fauld around your waist.
>inv slot
Items worn on the body: 5/30
Items worn on the back: 0/1
Items worn around the waist: 1/2

fauld still eats into belt slots it seems

-Munch-
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Re: Suggestions for new patterns with unconventional coverage 04/01/2016 12:44 AM CDT
Belt slots and belt-worn slots are different things--that's probably the confusion there.
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Re: Suggestions for new patterns with unconventional coverage 04/01/2016 12:56 PM CDT


I'm not sure what the distinction is - did you mean the waist slot is different than the "attached to belt" slot? What I can say with confidence is that wearing a fauld conflicts with wearing a bundle on your waist.
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Re: Suggestions for new patterns with unconventional coverage 04/01/2016 01:12 PM CDT

You have two waist slots for things like sashes, bundles, ostentateous belt, tassets and so forth.
You have four belt slots for things like pouches, belt knives, etc.



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Re: Suggestions for new patterns with unconventional coverage 04/01/2016 03:27 PM CDT
I guess being messy and complicated is what I like about it. To me, it makes the choices more interesting when there is some dependency between them. (Btw, my current training setup is mantle, sleeves, bascinet, tasset, and greaves.) Adding more stuff like this wouldn't take away options for people who want to do singular pieces.
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