What kind of mace is that that does no impact damage?

> What kind of mace is that that does no impact damage?

All the impact was converted into electrical damage.

>>Was this testing done on the test server?

Yes

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Nevermind... took me a while to find the GM post (it's over in General Discussions, not here in Combat) and it says it's live in Prime. For some reason I had thought it said it was only on Test.

That said, this message is a bit wonky:

* Moving well, a musk hog leaps, bellowing wildly, its teeth bared in rage at you. You barely fail to block with crocodile-skin buckler.
The teeth lands a benign hit to your right leg.
[You're solidly balanced with opponent in good position.]

It should be, "The teeth land a benign hit." Also, when I hit something with my cudgel it sometimes messages as a cudgel, but sometimes as a haft. Is that intended? I haven't noticed it with other weapons I've used, and I'm using the cudgel in my off hand if that makes a difference. E.g.:

< Moving in with powerful grace, you slam a cudgel haft at a musk hog. A musk hog attempts to dodge, failing miserably.
The haft lands a hard (6/23) hit that swats at the hog's left hand but not really hurting it.
[You're nimbly balanced and in very strong position.]
[Roundtime 3 sec.]

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<<I don't think the haft thing is new, is it? Pommel bashing was around for awhile I thought.

You are correct, sir. I went back and searched some logs and found that messaging at least several months ago. Odd that I never noticed it until today.

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>>DR-Kodius: Only the glancing blow messaging changes are live in Prime. Messaging updates for effectiveness of the attack are only in Test still.

Is there a list of all of the glancing blow messaging (hits that do no damage)?

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> Is there a list of all of the glancing blow messaging (hits that do no damage)?

Here are the ones I've seen:

brushing hit
brushing strike
grazing blow
grazing strike
glancing blow
glancing strike
harmless blow
harmless strike
benign hit
ineffective strike
skimming strike
gentle hit

<<Benign just means not harmful. The term existed before its medical applications.

Except that outside of the medical context it means gentle or kind, not harmless. I suspect most people, however, know the term from the context of cancer more than the original definition and tend to use it with the meaning of harmless, which means this will likely be a word that has its official meaning updated in the near future. Or at least be a candidate for it.

All of that said, I'm perfectly happy with its use in this situation and don't find it jarring at all.

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<<Hell, a gentle strike is even funnier.>>

I was thinking more of an affectionate strike.

--Just a Squire

>>I dont think the word can modify artificial nouns? My best guess as to why. Benign grass, benign sky, benign tremor are okay, benign car, benign mug, benign slap are not.

I've never heard that rule with the word benign, but that troll claw gently caressing your face is 100% natural.

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<<And benign only means 'not harmful' in medical terms >>

Maybe getting attacked with a weapon makes it a medical term...

--Just a Squire

Gentle hit and benign hit scan just fine for me. I guess this comes back to the fact that english has more synonyms than any respectable language could need, and no one can ever agree on the subtle differences between them.

>>I would never describe myself as gently hitting someone unless I was demonstrating/acting or something. It just doesn't work with the context of something actually trying to kill you.

You wouldn't describe a hit that way because you'd hope you'd do more than just a gentle touch.

But, history (and combat messaging!) is determined by the victor, and in the case of a gentle strike the striker clearly lost to the strike-ee.

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>>And they still wouldn't call it benign.

Sure they would. Because they're jerks, and they like rubbing salt in the wound.

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>>Geez, Kodius tries to do something nice like release new combat messaging and all we do is argue over whether some of the words are appropriate. Go us.

I don't know if I like the word argue. What about bicker? Debate? Philosophical fart-battle!

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Nothing against Kodisu or what he does for us as players (he does a lot), but what exactly is he doing that's considered nice for us by expanding hit messaging? I didn't get a Christmas morning feel when it was announced. Help me understand how this is a perk for us.

Adding in words that don't really fit doesn't make it richer. Adding more just to add more doesn't necessarily make it better.

Quick question on the new no-damage messaging (or all no-damage messaging) - is there a hierarchy, or is the adjective chosen randomly?

>I was experimenting with modifying the Combat Messaging System to learn how it was used

Any chance we could see a change to the "arm/hand/leg hits" on creatures without limbs? Or, things like vipers and serpents getting back up on their feet after being knocked over?

Not a super important thing, so no need to take time away from other stuff. Just one of those things that kinda distracts from the immersion to me. If all creatures use the same messaging, would there even be a way to set up separate and specific messaging that some creatures use? IE: fin hits instead of arm hits for aquatic creatures like sharks, no limb hits for snakes, etc.

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>>thought adding more messaging to every aspect of the system might be nice for folks after a decade+ of seeing the same stuff over and over

I'd definitely like to see more variety in the messaging tiers. In the end, I might genie sub to just know what is a small tier vs a big tier hit, but variety is nice.

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