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The field plate is heavy plate.
The plate looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
right leg
left leg
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that some light tyrium field plate appears to impose significant maneuvering hindrance (10/15) and overwhelming stealth hindrance (14/15), offering:
great protection (9/15) and incredible damage absorption (15/17) for puncture attacks.
very great protection (10/15) and incredible damage absorption (15/17) for slice attacks.
high protection (7/15) and incredible damage absorption (15/17) for impact attacks.
very good protection (6/15) and great damage absorption (11/17) for fire attacks.
very good protection (6/15) and great damage absorption (11/17) for cold attacks.
good protection (5/15) and great damage absorption (11/17) for electrical attacks.
If you were only wearing some light tyrium field plate you could expect your maneuvering to be fairly hindered and your stealth to be extremely hindered.
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EDERICK
NECROBURTON
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/04/2012 06:39 PM CST
So... what trader's caravan did you have to hijack to get a hold of that much tyrium?
Awesome, by the way. Awesome.
- Araine
Awesome, by the way. Awesome.
- Araine
TIMALISO
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/04/2012 07:30 PM CST
>>is that weighted?
Yes, the density on the spreadsheet is listed at 6.5
Yes, the density on the spreadsheet is listed at 6.5
RANTHIL1
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/04/2012 07:58 PM CST
6.5 density and then was lightened (no change in app after lightening).
Was a custom order, sadly not for my consumption. I have to wallow in the poor land of only having damite :P.
On the technical aspects I am curious now about how unweighted tyrium would come out.
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Was a custom order, sadly not for my consumption. I have to wallow in the poor land of only having damite :P.
On the technical aspects I am curious now about how unweighted tyrium would come out.
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NEELD
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/04/2012 08:30 PM CST
Kraggor: That is actually a bit disappointing. Not a statement on your skill, merely a statement that I expected more from a full set of T Armor. Can you disclose the percentage of T used in the mix?
Madigan
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TIGARCLAW
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/04/2012 08:50 PM CST
The metal appears to be composed of: 67.24% tyrium, 17.24% lead, and 15.51% copper.
Keep in mind this is the LIGHT plate.
Heavy Tyrium plate would have likely 1 to 2 pts better across the board. Course getting enough Tyrium to make that... dont even ASK how much it cost to get enough to just make this set.
Keep in mind this is the LIGHT plate.
Heavy Tyrium plate would have likely 1 to 2 pts better across the board. Course getting enough Tyrium to make that... dont even ASK how much it cost to get enough to just make this set.
EDERICK
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/04/2012 08:51 PM CST
Based off what damite heavy plate appraises like, and my own figuring, i'm thinking if i ever do get enough tyrium for a set it will also be disappointing.
TIGARCLAW
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/04/2012 08:58 PM CST
>>Based off what damite heavy plate appraises like, and my own figuring, i'm thinking if i ever do get enough tyrium for a set it will also be disappointing
If I were to hazard a guess.
Heavy Tyrium would look something like this 10/16, 10/16, 9/16
Better in physical and a fair bit better on elemental than Damite. We are still uncertain how big a role Elemental protection will play in 3.0 it may end up being big or not. At least it will have meaning and that will count for a fair bit. Also keep in mind the weight Tyrium looks to be about 25% lighter. That counts towards hinderance. I suspect if a number cruncher was to plug in numbers it will mean a lot less hits and lighter hits in general.
If I were to hazard a guess.
Heavy Tyrium would look something like this 10/16, 10/16, 9/16
Better in physical and a fair bit better on elemental than Damite. We are still uncertain how big a role Elemental protection will play in 3.0 it may end up being big or not. At least it will have meaning and that will count for a fair bit. Also keep in mind the weight Tyrium looks to be about 25% lighter. That counts towards hinderance. I suspect if a number cruncher was to plug in numbers it will mean a lot less hits and lighter hits in general.
TIGARCLAW
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/04/2012 09:05 PM CST
Well if you look at how Stee/Luminum/Damite scale like in protection one over other the way Tyrium scales over Damite makes sense and the numbers I suppose should have been predictable when you compared how the other three scaled with each other.
I guess folks expect Tyrium to be this UBAR EVERYTHING O DOOM!!! Because of the stupendous price it commands. That is just the way things are in DR folks are looking for BEST OF THE BEST OF THE BEST. If you want that that extra 1 point going to cost you up to individuals to figgure out is it worth it for them.
I guess folks expect Tyrium to be this UBAR EVERYTHING O DOOM!!! Because of the stupendous price it commands. That is just the way things are in DR folks are looking for BEST OF THE BEST OF THE BEST. If you want that that extra 1 point going to cost you up to individuals to figgure out is it worth it for them.
TEVESHSZAT
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/04/2012 09:06 PM CST
>>Course getting enough Tyrium to make that...
Wouldn't you be able to figure out the stats with just tyrium gauntlets using the same armor class template?
Wouldn't you be able to figure out the stats with just tyrium gauntlets using the same armor class template?
RANTHIL1
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/04/2012 10:48 PM CST
The plate came out as expected. Blend was already posted. Going up to 6.95 density may have yielded slightly better cold/fire, but the earlier guess on the stats for heavy (rather than light) pattern are about where my guess would have been.
I think an important thing to keep in mind with the tyrium vs damite question is that the tyrium will be much lighter (I'm itching to see how pure tyrium comes out w/o weighting), not to mention not needing to reinforce it. On larger pieces even currently you end up about 50-100 stones lighter (possible hindrance implications there), and depending on the final break point, you could even drop a point of hindrance.
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I think an important thing to keep in mind with the tyrium vs damite question is that the tyrium will be much lighter (I'm itching to see how pure tyrium comes out w/o weighting), not to mention not needing to reinforce it. On larger pieces even currently you end up about 50-100 stones lighter (possible hindrance implications there), and depending on the final break point, you could even drop a point of hindrance.
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ALEPH-ONE
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/05/2012 02:27 AM CST
Kraggur, that is beautiful.
Weight and durability?
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Weight and durability?
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MARTINCOTY77
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/05/2012 07:56 AM CST
I believe armor appraisal ranges are a bit larger than weapon appraisal ranges. So even if most of the ranges are similiar/same there could quite a bit of difference. Kraggur is that what you experienced, maybe with comparing would show more?
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NEELD
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/05/2012 08:29 AM CST
<<Based off what damite heavy plate appraises like, and my own figuring, i'm thinking if i ever do get enough tyrium for a set it will also be disappointing.
Not enough bang for the buck at least based on what I have seen thus far.
Madigan
Not enough bang for the buck at least based on what I have seen thus far.
Madigan
RANTHIL1
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/05/2012 12:04 PM CST
I've picked up no difference in compares across the testing I have done.
I've also noticed the system is a bit lumpier than otherwise might be expected (e.g. chain jumps from 11 absorb to 13 absorb [tyrium/heavy damite], rather than curving through 12).
It was 12/17 before temper, and 16/17 (or maybe +1/+1 on both) after.
Weight was 377 and final weight was ~330.
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I've also noticed the system is a bit lumpier than otherwise might be expected (e.g. chain jumps from 11 absorb to 13 absorb [tyrium/heavy damite], rather than curving through 12).
It was 12/17 before temper, and 16/17 (or maybe +1/+1 on both) after.
Weight was 377 and final weight was ~330.
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TIGARCLAW
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/05/2012 02:23 PM CST
>>Not enough bang for the buck at least based on what I have seen thus far.
Strictly Plat vs Plat compare I'd agree. But if you want the best there is...
Look I bought the tyrium and it cost a fortune. I could have had 3 full damite plate sets made with that much plats. But I wanted something that was A) Top of the line, B) Unique. I have to admit the way DR prices are these days for things anyhting worth anything is going to be worth stupendous amounts of plats. Way I see it a top of the line suite of armor I get to ure for likely rest of my DR life is a good investment.
The final issue I had with damite was I cant use heavy damite plate. It has the weight of a small mountain and the hinderance is pure murder. Guy I play is a War mage. Light damite is actually wrose than the Kanton's Killing Fields (pre nerf) drop plate I was using so there was no point to having light damite made. I also wanted to see what Tyrium plate would look like. My ONLY regret is I did not have enough Tyrium to have Heavy Tyrium Plate made. At some point down the road if I manage to pick up 30 more voulumes of tyrium I may melt this one down and have Kraggur do a Heavy Tyrium Plate. The extra FEW points of protection vs the likely 150 to 200 stones of weight and increased hinderance may not make it worth while in Heavy Plate even for Tyrium for a non Paladin/Barb.
Strictly Plat vs Plat compare I'd agree. But if you want the best there is...
Look I bought the tyrium and it cost a fortune. I could have had 3 full damite plate sets made with that much plats. But I wanted something that was A) Top of the line, B) Unique. I have to admit the way DR prices are these days for things anyhting worth anything is going to be worth stupendous amounts of plats. Way I see it a top of the line suite of armor I get to ure for likely rest of my DR life is a good investment.
The final issue I had with damite was I cant use heavy damite plate. It has the weight of a small mountain and the hinderance is pure murder. Guy I play is a War mage. Light damite is actually wrose than the Kanton's Killing Fields (pre nerf) drop plate I was using so there was no point to having light damite made. I also wanted to see what Tyrium plate would look like. My ONLY regret is I did not have enough Tyrium to have Heavy Tyrium Plate made. At some point down the road if I manage to pick up 30 more voulumes of tyrium I may melt this one down and have Kraggur do a Heavy Tyrium Plate. The extra FEW points of protection vs the likely 150 to 200 stones of weight and increased hinderance may not make it worth while in Heavy Plate even for Tyrium for a non Paladin/Barb.
NEELD
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/06/2012 10:40 AM CST
<<But if you want the best there is...
The "best" armor varies by what you want from it. In your mind, this is the best for you and that is great.
Madigan
The "best" armor varies by what you want from it. In your mind, this is the best for you and that is great.
Madigan
BEVERAGEK
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/06/2012 12:05 PM CST
Got a tyrium light chain shirt made that was ++ in protection and absorption across the board and -- in maneuvering and stealth hinderance and weight. Way worth the money IMO for my goal of being a ninja.
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Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/06/2012 12:56 PM CST
<<a tyrium light chain shirt>>
I'd be interested in seeing the whole app on that, unless it's an uber ninja secret.
Kaxis
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I'd be interested in seeing the whole app on that, unless it's an uber ninja secret.
Kaxis
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NEELD
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/06/2012 02:20 PM CST
<<Got a tyrium light chain shirt
That is where I am seeing the most bang for the buck on tyrium. Those things are darn nice.
Madigan
That is where I am seeing the most bang for the buck on tyrium. Those things are darn nice.
Madigan
BEVERAGEK
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/06/2012 02:26 PM CST
Er, it's a lorica.
a fitted mesh lorica of chaotically-angled links
The mesh lorica is light chain.
The lorica looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that a fitted mesh lorica of chaotically-angled links appears to impose mild (6/15) maneuvering hindrance and fair (5/15) stealth hindrance, offering:
good (5/15) protection and extreme (13/17) damage absorption for puncture attacks.
high (7/15) protection and extreme (13/17) damage absorption for slice attacks.
very good (6/15) protection and extreme (13/17) damage absorption for impact attacks.
good (5/15) protection and high (9/17) damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate (4/15) protection and high (9/17) damage absorption for cold attacks.
fair (3/15) protection and high (9/17) damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only wearing a fitted mesh lorica of chaotically-angled links your maneuvering would be minimally hindered and your stealth would be insignificantly hindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently lightly hindered and your stealth is lightly hindered.
You are certain that the mesh lorica is nearly impervious to damage (17/18), and is practically in mint condition (90-97%).
The mesh lorica is made with metal.
The mesh lorica is moderately flexible.
You are certain that the mesh lorica weighs exactly 153 stones.
You are certain that the mesh lorica is worth exactly 4098720 kronars.
You remain concealed by your surroundings, convinced that your appraisal of a fitted mesh lorica of chaotically-angled links went unobserved.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
This rugged, sleeveless chain shirt is sleek and fitted, clearly tailored to fit closely to the figure of a particular wearer. Layers of small, dark metallic links have been reinforced at odd angles with larger ones, forming a chaotic pattern across its length. Sturdy leather ties are stitched around the openings to the arms, neck and lower body, while the shoulders are secured with slender, diamond-shaped pauldrons. When turned just right, the metal of the lorica gleams a faint dark purple.
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a fitted mesh lorica of chaotically-angled links
The mesh lorica is light chain.
The lorica looks like it offers protection for the following areas:
chest
abdomen
back
You feel certain that a fitted mesh lorica of chaotically-angled links appears to impose mild (6/15) maneuvering hindrance and fair (5/15) stealth hindrance, offering:
good (5/15) protection and extreme (13/17) damage absorption for puncture attacks.
high (7/15) protection and extreme (13/17) damage absorption for slice attacks.
very good (6/15) protection and extreme (13/17) damage absorption for impact attacks.
good (5/15) protection and high (9/17) damage absorption for fire attacks.
moderate (4/15) protection and high (9/17) damage absorption for cold attacks.
fair (3/15) protection and high (9/17) damage absorption for electrical attacks.
If you were only wearing a fitted mesh lorica of chaotically-angled links your maneuvering would be minimally hindered and your stealth would be insignificantly hindered.
But considering all the armor and shields you are wearing or carrying, you are currently lightly hindered and your stealth is lightly hindered.
You are certain that the mesh lorica is nearly impervious to damage (17/18), and is practically in mint condition (90-97%).
The mesh lorica is made with metal.
The mesh lorica is moderately flexible.
You are certain that the mesh lorica weighs exactly 153 stones.
You are certain that the mesh lorica is worth exactly 4098720 kronars.
You remain concealed by your surroundings, convinced that your appraisal of a fitted mesh lorica of chaotically-angled links went unobserved.
Roundtime: 8 seconds.
This rugged, sleeveless chain shirt is sleek and fitted, clearly tailored to fit closely to the figure of a particular wearer. Layers of small, dark metallic links have been reinforced at odd angles with larger ones, forming a chaotic pattern across its length. Sturdy leather ties are stitched around the openings to the arms, neck and lower body, while the shoulders are secured with slender, diamond-shaped pauldrons. When turned just right, the metal of the lorica gleams a faint dark purple.
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URUTU
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/06/2012 04:12 PM CST
Not trying to be an irritant, Leilond, but:
This rugged, sleeveless chain shirt is sleek and fitted, clearly tailored to fit closely to the figure of a particular wearer. Layers of small, dark metallic links have been reinforced at odd angles with larger ones, forming a chaotic pattern across its length. Sturdy leather ties are stitched around the openings to the arms, neck and lower body, while the shoulders are secured with slender, diamond-shaped pauldrons. When turned just right, the metal of the lorica gleams a faint dark purple.
The loricas of old forging weren't so good, so this is an improvement.
Kaxis
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This rugged, sleeveless chain shirt is sleek and fitted, clearly tailored to fit closely to the figure of a particular wearer. Layers of small, dark metallic links have been reinforced at odd angles with larger ones, forming a chaotic pattern across its length. Sturdy leather ties are stitched around the openings to the arms, neck and lower body, while the shoulders are secured with slender, diamond-shaped pauldrons. When turned just right, the metal of the lorica gleams a faint dark purple.
The loricas of old forging weren't so good, so this is an improvement.
Kaxis
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URUTU
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/06/2012 04:22 PM CST
With the alteration I'm also not sure what template was used. Was it ring, chain, or mail?
Kaxis
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BEVERAGEK
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/06/2012 05:34 PM CST
It was a ring lorica, and a lorica is pretty much a sleeveless shirt :P
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URUTU
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/06/2012 07:22 PM CST
Oh, okay. I see how that works. I think I'll get my shirt altered into a greave-less hauberk. All you had to do was explain it to me :)
Kaxis
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BEVERAGEK
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/06/2012 07:59 PM CST
lol touche
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RANTHIL1
Re: Tyrium light field plate
01/07/2012 01:42 AM CST
>>a fitted mesh lorica of chaotically-angled links
glad to see what the final product worked out to be. Thanks for letting me test some blends! :)
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glad to see what the final product worked out to be. Thanks for letting me test some blends! :)
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